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U.S. puts brakes on Israeli plan for attack on Iran nuclear facilities
By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent
Tags: U.S., nuclear program, Iran 

The American administration has rejected an Israeli request for military equipment and support that would improve Israel's ability to attack Iran's nuclear facilities.

A report published last week by the Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security (ISIS) states that military strikes are unlikely to destroy Iran's centrifuge program for enriching uranium.

The Americans viewed the request, which was transmitted (and rejected) at the highest level, as a sign that Israel is in the advanced stages of preparations to attack Iran. They therefore warned Israel against attacking, saying such a strike would undermine American interests. They also demanded that Israel give them prior notice if it nevertheless decided to strike Iran.
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As compensation for the requests it rejected, Washington offered to improve Israel's defenses against surface-to-surface missiles.

Israel responded by saying it reserves the right to take whatever action it deems necessary if diplomatic efforts to halt Iran's nuclearization fail.

Senior Israeli officials had originally hoped that U.S. President George Bush would order an American strike on Iran's nuclear facilities before leaving office, as America's military is far better equipped to conduct such a strike successfully than is Israel's.

Jerusalem also fears that an Israeli strike, even if it succeeded well enough to delay Iran's nuclear development for a few years, would give Iran international legitimacy for its program, which it currently lacks. Israel, in contrast, would be portrayed as an aggressor, and would be forced to contend alone with Iran's retaliation, which would probably include thousands of missile strikes by Iranian allies Hezbollah, Hamas and perhaps even Syria.

Recently, however, Israel has concluded that Bush is unlikely to attack, and will focus instead on ratcheting up diplomatic pressure on Tehran. It prefers to wait until this process has been exhausted, though without conceding the military option. Israel's assumption is that Iran will continue to use delaying tactics, and may even agree to briefly suspend its uranium enrichment program in an effort to see out the rest of Bush's term in peace.

The American-Israeli dispute over a military strike against Iran erupted during Bush's visit to Jerusalem in May. At the time, Bush held a private meeting on the Iranian threat with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Defense Minister Ehud Barak, and the Israelis presented their request for certain specific items of military equipment, along with diplomatic and security backing.

Following Bush's return to Washington, the administration studied Israel's request, and this led it to suspect that Israel was planning to attack Iran within the next few months. The Americans therefore decided to send a strong message warning it not to do so.

U.S. National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen both visited here in June and, according to the Washington Post, told senior Israeli defense officials that Iran is still far from obtaining nuclear weapons, and that an attack on Iran would undermine American interests. Therefore, they said, the U.S. would not allow Israeli planes to overfly Iraq en route to Iran.

The Americans sent a similar message to Iraq, which had objected vociferously to the idea of its air space being used for an Israeli attack on Iran.

These private messages were accompanied by a series of leaks from the Pentagon that Israel interpreted as attempts to thwart any possibility of an attack on Iran. For instance, the Americans revealed details of a major Israel Air Force exercise in the Mediterranean; they also said they doubted Israel had adequate intelligence about Iran's nuclear facilities. In addition, Mullen spoke out publicly against an attack on Iran.

Two weeks ago, Barak visited Washington for talks with his American counterpart, Robert Gates, and Vice President Richard Cheney. Both conversations focused on Iran, but the two Americans presented conflicting views: Gates vehemently opposes an attack on Iran, while Cheney is the administration's leading hawk.

Barak presented Israel's assessments of the Iranian situation and warned that Iran was liable to advance its nuclear program under cover of the endless deliberations about sanctions - which have thus far produced little in the way of action. He also acknowledged that effective sanctions would require cooperation from Russia, China and India, all of which currently oppose sanctions with real teeth.

Russia, however, is considered key to efforts to isolate Iran, and Israeli officials have therefore urged their American counterparts in recent months to tone down Washington's other disputes with Moscow to focus all its efforts on obtaining Russia's backing against Iran. For instance, they suggested that Washington offer to drop its plan to station a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic - a proposal Russia views as a threat, though Washington insists the system is aimed solely at Iran - in exchange for Russia agreeing to stiffer sanctions against Iran. However, the administration rejected this idea.

In an attempt to compensate Israel for having rejected all its proposals, Washington then offered to bolster Israel's defenses against ballistic missiles. For instance, Gates proposed stationing an advanced radar system in Israel and linking Israel directly into America's early warning satellite network; he also offered increased American funding for the development of two Israeli missile defense systems - the Arrow-3, an upgrade of Israel's existing Arrow system for intercepting ballistic missiles, and Iron Dome, a system designed to intercept short-range rockets. In addition, Washington agreed to sell Israel nine Super Hercules long-range transport aircraft for $2 billion. However, it would not agree to supply Israel with any offensive systems.

Now, Israel is awaiting the outcome of the latest talks between the West and Iran, as well as a formal announcement of the opening of an American interests section in Tehran. Israel views the latter as sure proof that Washington is not planning a military strike.

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      215.   Clickfool (#182) ``Western Invading Armies`` 17:39  |  Gil 13/08/08
      216.   #127 Bibi Said 9/11 was a good thing for Israel 17:39  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      217.   #134 indy is having wet dreams again 17:41  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      218.   Iran and The U.S 17:43  |  Dani 13/08/08
      219.   #138 Pewter Israel has always been alone! 17:46  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      220.   No Suprises here 17:47  |  Danite 13/08/08
      221.   TO NO 51. 17:48  |  DANNY. 13/08/08
      222.   Hero Alert!! Golden Opportunity..... 17:48  |  Gray 13/08/08
      223.   In the face of stupefying duplicity by others.... 17:49  |  PL 13/08/08
      224.   Henry # 200 Could not of said it better Myself 17:50  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      225.   Noor #197 nah is that why the Vp of Iran wants Israels friendship 17:54  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      226.   # 215 big sur 17:54  |  Axel 13/08/08
      227.   TO JOHN 17:56  |  DANNY. 13/08/08
      228.   #186.Motti.So let us have Peace before itis too late. 17:57  |  Sandy 13/08/08
      229.   TO NO 76 17:59  |  DANNY. 13/08/08
      230.   Hey wait a minute 17:59  |  Dr Noam 13/08/08
      231.   #214 Big Sur 17:59  |  Chris Linthwaite 13/08/08
      232.   TO 77. 18:01  |  DANNY. 13/08/08
      233.   #226 Israel has done it Before, From a personal standpoint Axel 18:02  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      234.   231 Please read my reply you left half out 18:05  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      235.   NOOR (#207) What do you want to here that some Arabs 18:06  |  Gil 13/08/08
      236.   Big Sur 18:08  |  noor 13/08/08
      237.   Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem 18:16  |  Tookson 13/08/08
      238.   #136, examiner 18:19  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/08/08
      239.   #236 Noor Wrong again 18:20  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      240.   #233 Big Sur 18:21  |  Boycott 13/08/08
      241.   Big Sur of California 18:24  |  Paul Wood 13/08/08
      242.   #233 Boycott it is not his call to do so. Israel 18:30  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      243.   Paul Wood if you read my posts you would find I am Israeli 18:33  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      244.   I still havent seen proof 18:37  |  D. 13/08/08
      245.   Hi Danite... 18:39  |  Ibrahim 13/08/08
      246.   Thousands of U.S. G.I.s In The Middle; Anybody Care? 18:44  |  Gray 13/08/08
      247.   The Light unto Nations should be sent to coventry 18:46  |  Labhras 13/08/08
      248.   #238 Traveller from outer space quoting the Mars tribune 18:50  |  Labhras 13/08/08
      249.   #233 Big Sur: "I am not an armchair warrior." 18:50  |  Gray 13/08/08
      250.   Tookson - Praying for peace in Jerusalem 18:50  |  Praying man 13/08/08
      251.   #245 Ibrahim, Yes there is evidence 18:51  |  Big Sur 13/08/08
      252.   thanks for supporting my argument BIG SUR 18:54  |  noor 13/08/08
      253.   No more annihilation of Jews and the West looking on 18:56  |  European Jew 13/08/08
      254.   This is diplomatic CYA of course. 18:57  |  D. Dimitrijevic 13/08/08
      255.   To the Tiny people with narrow minds - Some facts 19:00  |  USA Christian 13/08/08
      256.   break U.S` break 19:04  |  George Duraisingh 13/08/08
      257.   #150, examiner 19:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/08/08
      258.   Israel`s myterious weapon 19:08  |  spymaster50 13/08/08
      259.   Well, well, well, I guess the dog still wags the tail 19:11  |  Pssd Off American 13/08/08
      260.   Morris Valentine #1 you haven`t seen a good case? 19:14  |  Palestinian Prince 13/08/08
      261.   #220, Danite 19:22  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/08/08
      262.   #257 Good analysis Cipora 19:23  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 13/08/08
      263.   DON`T 19:23  |  JOJO 13/08/08
      264.   israel is a war mongering state 19:25  |  dennis vedin 13/08/08
      265.   For Big Sur, "a loyal Israeli" # 243 19:28  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      266.   For USA Christian # 255 19:31  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      267.   Israel`s failure leaders divert attention of public 19:32  |  Nat 13/08/08
      268.   with friends like these..... 19:35  |  smell d. buck 13/08/08
      269.   260 HeyPrince. Apparently you don`t get it. Get real! 19:45  |  common sense 13/08/08
      270.   You will get none 19:46  |  Mag 13/08/08
      271.   Stop the Iranian extermination program! 19:49  |  Jonathan S 13/08/08
      272.   US brakes will not deter Israel 19:49  |  Jonathan S 13/08/08
      273.   PETER SM #138 19:49  |  Chet 13/08/08
      274.   Wounded American Veterans... 19:55  |  Gray 13/08/08
      275.   IRAN HAS NEVER THREATENED ISRAEL ??? 19:57  |  tristan 13/08/08
      276.   #262, Margie, TA 20:04  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/08/08
      277.   Israel attack on Iran 20:05  |  David 13/08/08
      278.   Israel attack on Iran 20:07  |  David 13/08/08
      279.   Durson 20:11  |  Sank 13/08/08
      280.   Yonotan 20:13  |  Tug919 13/08/08
      281.   #180, Kathy 20:15  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/08/08
      282.   274 Gray, what about wounded Americans for Gulf War I? 20:15  |  The Equalizer 13/08/08
      283.   Tristan, take a deep breath a couple of Unisom tablets, then read 20:21  |  Pssd Off American 13/08/08
      284.   Another blood libel from Gray 20:21  |  Stephen in New York 13/08/08
      285.   Tristan from Paris, perhaps you are more delusional? 20:26  |  Ibrahim 13/08/08
      286.   By the way, Jonathan, let`s talk practicalities # 272 20:28  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      287.   # 281 CJK 20:42  |  Axel 13/08/08
      288.   ISRAEL BEHAVES LIKE A ROGUE STATE 20:45  |  Muhammud al-Swain 13/08/08
      289.   CLI9CKFOOL AND INSULTS (166) 20:46  |  Brant 13/08/08
      290.   # 284 stephen 20:46  |  Axel 13/08/08
      291.   #286,C fool 20:49  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/08/08
      292.   # 238 Cipora J.K..Off Subject But! Important.Putin`s Revenge !! 20:50  |  KATHY 13/08/08
      293.   Stephen in New York, peddling Zionist lies #284 21:00  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      294.   But Axel 21:05  |  Stephen in New York 13/08/08
      295.   # 292 karkur 21:05  |  Axel 13/08/08
      296.   Margie #121 21:06  |  wibism 13/08/08
      297.   Maybe you have a few ideas, Cipora # 291 21:06  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      298.   zionist dont care about israel 21:07  |  mike 13/08/08
      299.   #292, Kathy 21:08  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 13/08/08
      300.   For Axel # 290 21:09  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      301.   Johnboy #158 Israel`s death wish 21:09  |  wibism 13/08/08
      302.   BUSH FINALLY HAS SOMEONE BESIDES 21:16  |  ARRON 13/08/08
      303.   CLICKFOOL (#286) And being Practical 21:20  |  Gil 13/08/08
      304.   CLICKFOOL (#286) And being Practical 21:21  |  Gil 13/08/08
      305.   Chris Linthwaite #112 Response to Peter SM # 112 21:21  |  WYSIWYG 13/08/08
      306.   examiner, try cherrypicking the NIE another time 21:23  |  jj 13/08/08
      307.   Iranian threats 1 21:26  |  tristan 13/08/08
      308.   attack on Iran nuclear facilities 21:27  |  Ralph 13/08/08
      309.   Thanks Clickfool..... 21:31  |  Gray 13/08/08
      310.   Iranian threats 2 21:31  |  tristan 13/08/08
      311.   #300 Click You Are A Lier. First think Blair.. 21:34  |  KATHY 13/08/08
      312.   to Dr. Klein 21:35  |  Hilda 13/08/08
      313.   Let us go down fighting 21:40  |  J D 13/08/08
      314.   # 294 stephen 21:43  |  Axel 13/08/08
      315.   Why does anyone respond to Gray???? 21:50  |  Nemesis 13/08/08
      316.   #282 The Equalizer...Gray Will Nex Say The US Went To Afghanistan 21:58  |  KATHY 13/08/08
      317.   # 291 CJK 21:59  |  Axel 13/08/08
      318.   Alternatives 22:06  |  Angus Elliott 13/08/08
      319.   Words of defiance from Gil in Haifa, an Oz fan # 303 22:07  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      320.   309 Gray in the mental ward of the VA..... 22:09  |  The Equalizer 13/08/08
      321.   For Kathy # 311 22:14  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      322.   Iranian Retaliation 22:17  |  Gray 13/08/08
      323.   Modern language condition 22:18  |  allang 13/08/08
      324.   #34 Give it a rest, George 22:18  |  Jim 13/08/08
      325.   You have no need to "go down" at all, JD # 313 22:18  |  Clickfool 13/08/08
      326.   Who cares what America thinks! 22:20  |  Richard 13/08/08
      327.   Axel-your evidence? 22:21  |  Stephen in New York 13/08/08
      328.   #303 & 304 Gil..Wonderful Response Suited to A Person Called Fool 22:22  |  KATHY 13/08/08
      329.   J.D....c/o Haifa Instutute For The Unimaginably Insane 22:24  |  Gray 13/08/08
      330.   Tristan, concerned yes, start a war, sorry no.. 22:26  |  Ibrahim 13/08/08
      331.   Cipora #238/257 22:27  |  examiner 13/08/08
      332.   #315 Nemesis Why Indeed.Well Read On... 22:38  |  KATHY 13/08/08
      333.   Click 29 wotta souce 22:43  |  Stephen in New York 13/08/08
      334.   @257 Cipora Julianna Kohn 22:47  |  Mark B. 13/08/08
      335.   #40 Jean Van Daem 22:48  |  Jim 13/08/08
      336.   Nuttie Durson`s wet dreams # 22 22:48  |  Fortuna Benmayor 13/08/08
      337.   CF 293 This is your idea of a credible source? 22:53  |  Stephen in New York 13/08/08
      338.   #306 jj- a cheap shot 22:55  |  examiner 13/08/08
      339.   Israel v. Iran 23:28  |  Stephen Wynne 13/08/08
      340.   Adm Mullen to Israel: Don`t pull another "Liberty" 00:04  |  Gray 14/08/08
      341.   U.S. puts brakes on Israeli plan 00:11  |  David 14/08/08
      342.   #315 Nemesis about Gray 00:12  |  mike 14/08/08
      343.   Nemesis-important to confront blood libels 00:17  |  Stephen in New York 14/08/08
      344.   It`s that lovely big bear! 00:27  |  Maureen Ann 14/08/08
      345.   Damned if they do? 00:33  |  Rob F 14/08/08
      346.   "You don`t always get what you want...." 00:43  |  Gray 14/08/08
      347.   Plan for the worst , hope for the best, thats what israel should 00:48  |  jj 14/08/08
      348.   why is anyone afraid of Iran? 01:07  |  natan 14/08/08
      349.   Cipora 01:24  |  Danite 14/08/08
      350.   Ibrahim 01:27  |  Danite 14/08/08
      351.   Kathy, Nemesis, necessary to confront blood libels 01:39  |  Stephen in New York 14/08/08
      352.   The danger is NOT Iran. The Danger to give land to your Enemy. 02:06  |  Akram Zekaria 14/08/08
      353.   CHET.Where