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Barak: Criticism of IDF should be directed at me
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Service
Tags: israel news, palestinians 

Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Wednesday criticized an Israeli human rights organization for publishing an Israel Defense Forces soldier's testimony that troops used Palestinians as human shields during Operation Cast Lead last January, despite a 2005 High Court ruling outlawing the practice.

"Public criticism of the IDF is inappropriate," Barak said. "Any criticism, information or reservations about the army's conduct should be addressed to me as the Defense Minister of the State of Israel and to the Israeli government which instructed the IDF to reinstate peace and security in southern Israel."

The testimony of the Golani brigade soldier appears this week a collection of accounts published by Breaking the Silence, an organization that collects IDF soldiers' testimony on human rights abuses by the military. The Golani soldier gave similar testimony in a meeting with a Haaretz reporter.
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The soldier says his unit employed a variation of the practice, the so-called "neighbor procedure," when it checked homes for Palestinian militants.
He says he did not see Palestinians being used as human shields but was told by his commanders that this occurred.

The IDF Spokesman's Office, for its part, says that "the IDF regrets the fact that a human rights organization would again present to the country and the world a report containing anonymous, generalized testimony without checking the details or their reliability, and without giving the IDF, as a matter of minimal fairness, the opportunity to check the matters and respond to them before publication."

The soldier's allegations relate to IDF conduct during fighting in the eastern part of Gaza City. The soldier, a staff sergeant, says that in his unit and others, Palestinians were often sent into houses to determine if there was anyone inside.

"The practice was not to call it 'the neighbor procedure.' Instead it was called 'Johnny,'" the soldier said, using IDF slang for Palestinian civilians. The IDF employed this practice extensively during the second intifada, before it was outlawed by the High Court of Justice in 2005.

At every home, the soldier said, if there were armed occupants, the house was besieged, with the goal of getting the militants out of the building alive. The soldier said he was present at several such operations.

In an incident his commanders told him about, three armed militants were in a house. Attack helicopters were brought in. "They ... again sent the [Palestinian] neighbor in. At first he said that nothing had happened [to the armed men]," the soldier said.

"Again they brought in attack helicopters and fired. They again sent in the neighbor. He said there were two dead and one still alive. They then brought in a bulldozer and began to knock the house down on him until [the neighbor] entered." The soldier said he had been told that the only militant remaining alive was captured and turned over to the Shin Bet security service.

The Golani soldier also testified that his commanders reported incidents in which Palestinians were given sledgehammers to break through walls to let the army enter through the side of houses. The army feared that the doors were booby-trapped.

The soldier added, however, that although the unit commander justified the use of the so-called Johnny procedure, the commander said he was not aware that sledgehammers had been given to civilians or that weapons were pointed at civilians. The commander said the allegations would be looked into.

The soldier said he had heard of other instances in which Palestinian civilians were used as human shields. One time, for example, a Palestinian was put at the front of an IDF force with a gun pointed at him from behind. But the soldier said he had not seen this himself.

The IDF Spokesman's Office said in a statement that on initial consideration, a few of the allegations appear to be similar to allegations published several months ago after a lecture by officers to cadets at a pre-military academy.

"Now, too," the spokesman said, "a considerable portion of the testimony is based on rumors and secondhand accounts. Most of the incidents relate to anonymous testimony lacking in identifying details, and accordingly it is not possible to check the allegations on an individual basis in a way that would enable an investigation, confirmation or refutation."

The spokesman said the Breaking the Silence report suggests that the organization might not be interested in a reliable comprehensive examination of the allegations, "and to our regret this is not the first time the organization has taken this course of action. The IDF is obligated to examine every well-founded complaint it receives."

The spokesman also noted that allegations by Breaking the Silence containing specifics would be investigated.

"The IDF expects that every soldier and commander who suspects there was a witness to a violation of orders or procedures, and especially with respect to violations causing injury to noncombatants, will bring all of the details to the attention of authorized parties," the spokesman said.

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      1.   So....Hamas also used Palestinians as shields 03:27  |  Charles 15/07/09
      2.   So what, every army does this!! 03:36  |  Mark R 15/07/09
      3.   This Proves the Israeli Government Lies about what it does 03:38  |  Marc leb 15/07/09
      4.   One thing is interesting 03:53  |  Arie 15/07/09
      5.   I don`t get it 04:02  |  Sean 15/07/09
      6.   Nothing new with this 04:07  |  Mark Lincoln 15/07/09
      7.   The things nobody saw 04:08  |  sabra 15/07/09
      8.   Immoral bullies... 04:20  |  Mary 15/07/09
      9.   That`s not news! 04:31  |  Cynical American 15/07/09
      10.   do these people know what keeping their mouths shut means? 04:44  |  Jay 15/07/09
      11.   Hurt Israel = Print 04:45  |  paul almond 15/07/09
      12.   2nd hand info yet again 04:49  |  Jon 15/07/09
      13.   So what...this happens in every war around the world 04:53  |  Mark 15/07/09
      14.   Immoral bullies... 05:06  |  Cesare 15/07/09
      15.   Mary 05:10  |  Jasper 15/07/09
      16.   There is nothing which can lower peoples respect for the IDF 05:24  |  Natallie Durson 15/07/09
      17.   Same as the famous "your sister is a whore"; now prove you have 05:25  |  Emanuel 15/07/09
      18.   So what? 05:33  |  Alfredo 15/07/09
      19.   so did the brits in the 1930s and 40s 05:36  |  harvey 15/07/09
      20.   Apples vs Oranges 05:46  |  Hirz 15/07/09
      21.   Hamas terrorists should have hidden inside their military bases 05:51  |  Yoni 15/07/09
      22.   To Mary: I would love to see you against a first rate terrorist 05:52  |  AA 15/07/09
      23.   Or criminal behavior by settlers 05:58  |  Mo 15/07/09
      24.   human shields 05:58  |  rm 15/07/09
      25.   A Bothersome Part of the Sargent`s Story 06:09  |  Itzik 15/07/09
      26.   The disrespect Haaretz readers show for human rights is astonishi 06:10  |  Canadian 15/07/09
      27.   War is hell...not a gentleman`s game 06:20  |  Mark 15/07/09
      28.   No this did not happen,not the IDF 06:27  |  maoriboy 15/07/09
      29.   Anyone else remember the use of 06:45  |  Mark Lincoln 15/07/09
      30.   No way 07:03  |  Binyamin Dissen 15/07/09
      31.   Facts or calumnies ? 07:16  |  B. Gold 15/07/09
      32.   Allegations 07:18  |  Michael 15/07/09
      33.   #3 - Sean - Ever wonder why the world hates both nations? 07:19  |  Marc Leb 15/07/09
      34.   Time is of the essence! 07:24  |  Haaretz Fan 15/07/09
      35.   UNACCEPTABLE! 07:34  |  john 15/07/09
      36.   Why didn`t Israel cooperate with the UN investigations? 07:48  |  Maureen Ann 15/07/09
      37.   Ignorance 07:54  |  Chris 15/07/09
      38.   I am sorry but this makes no sense.The gazeans elected 07:54  |  ks 15/07/09
      39.   IDF soldier 07:56  |  DT 15/07/09
      40.   The most moral army LOL 08:01  |  Froy 15/07/09
      41.   encroachment 08:19  |  annonymous 15/07/09
      42.   If I only could I would blow entire Gaza without any hesitation 08:23  |  Boby 15/07/09
      43.   re Sean #4 08:30  |  Colin Wright 15/07/09
      44.   This is oxymorone 08:45  |  Nik 15/07/09
      45.   IT Is illegal for IDF,they were breaking the Law.Hamas boasts 08:48  |  PETER SM 15/07/09
      46.   jay 9 08:54  |  potobac 15/07/09
      47.   Sean from San Diego #4 08:58  |  Froy 15/07/09
      48.   Stop kidding yourselves. 09:10  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      49.   Where there is smoke there is fire 09:48  |  Steve the Pals. 15/07/09
      50.   Pointless Debate !! 10:12  |  Yosi 15/07/09
      51.   "was told" is not good enough. Hearsay is not legal or evidence 11:05  |  JO 15/07/09
      52.   Every Israeli step towrds transparency is turned against Israel 11:11  |  Israeli citizen 15/07/09
      53.   27 11:16  |  John Spear 15/07/09
      54.   Out of sight, out of mind 11:30  |  Eivind 15/07/09
      55.   #27 11:33  |  understand 15/07/09
      56.   Bashing 11:42  |  Ki`emli 15/07/09
      57.   OmG this article is based only on hearsay 11:44  |  Isser 15/07/09
      58.   The hypocrisy of the IDF `s regret and fairness 11:46  |  Dutch 15/07/09
      59.   Charles - so we`re told, by.....Israeli propaganda 11:46  |  CJ 15/07/09
      60.   This just affirms what we already knew 11:48  |  GaileeHero 15/07/09
      61.   IDF uses human shields too. 11:48  |  Rudy 15/07/09
      62.   Sean - un corroborated tosh or are you admitting a war crime? 11:50  |  CJ 15/07/09
      63.   Rumours, second-hand accounts .... 11:50  |  David Plane 15/07/09
      64.   Reena Ninan of Fox News channel 11:52  |  Greg Garrison 15/07/09
      65.   sabra - actually it`s really poor.... 11:57  |  CJ 15/07/09
      66.   In what way is this "news" different from a rumor? 12:03  |  S 15/07/09
      67.   Jay - You`d rather lies or silence? 12:04  |  CJ 15/07/09
      68.   Use of human shields is standard IDF policy 12:06  |  Johan Odin 15/07/09
      69.   #1 the big deal? 12:06  |  Rachel Kohn 15/07/09
      70.   Israelis will pay for spilling the innocent blood of Gazans... 12:07  |  Dutch 15/07/09
      71.   charles 12:13  |  A.M. 15/07/09
      72.   He didn;t see it!! This is hearsay 12:14  |  GR 15/07/09
      73.   JO - I was told IS good enough. You prove it 12:19  |  CJ 15/07/09
      74.   What army does not use human shields? 12:22  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      75.   Mmm. A soldier peers out of a Gazan HOME . front page 12:24  |  CJ 15/07/09
      76.   YA! OK, you were the IDF soldiers who used human shields..... 12:25  |  Doghouse 15/07/09
      77.   IDF 12:29  |  Iranian Jew 15/07/09
      78.   Sean---to bad you have an irish name--you dishonour it. 12:31  |  Labhras 15/07/09
      79.   Johan Odin, what will be even more interesting.. 12:31  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      80.   Breaking the Silence 12:33  |  Fred 15/07/09
      81.   This has been doing the rounds for months 12:38  |  sh 15/07/09
      82.   Every Israeli step towrds transparency is turned against Israel 12:38  |  Israeli citizen 15/07/09
      83.   No this did not happen,not the IDF 12:48  |  maoriboy 15/07/09
      84.   War crimes during `Cast Dead`? 13:06  |  Fred 15/07/09
      85.   It`s only the top of the ice berg. 13:13  |  jens 15/07/09
      86.   Haaretz deliberately damages Israel 13:17  |  Brian Glenville 15/07/09
      87.   Human shields 13:27  |  JH 15/07/09
      88.   #9 Jay 13:33  |  BDS 15/07/09
      89.   #49 Tzfonit 13:39  |  BDS 15/07/09
      90.   Iranian Jew 13:43  |  Natallie Durson 15/07/09
      91.   Israeli Supreme Court 14:00  |  Rolly Heffez 15/07/09
      92.   Every Israeli step towrds transparency is turned against Israel 14:20  |  Israeli citizen 15/07/09
      93.   :: The most moral army in the world eh? 14:27  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      94.   Tzfonit - your warped logic 14:28  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      95.   Barak slams allegations IDF used Palestinians as human shields 14:36  |  proud american 15/07/09
      96.   answer to paul almond 14:42  |  proud american 15/07/09
      97.   To #2 Nam? you lost mate as has the IDF 14:45  |  Mimosa 15/07/09
      98.   Johan Odin 14:49  |  Aby 15/07/09
      99.   Tzfonit 14:55  |  had enough 15/07/09
      100.   #1 the big deal is htat Israel 14:56  |  yael 15/07/09
      101.   Dutch you `ll pay one day 14:56  |  Aby 15/07/09
      102.   BDS, please check your standards, not mine. 14:58  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      103.   I partly agree with Tzfonit. 15:08  |  rm 15/07/09
      104.   Nathalie Solution don`t make me laugh. 15:08  |  Aby 15/07/09
      105.   Shields shmields - Palestinians simply kill Israeli civilians 15:10  |  Joe Sittizen 15/07/09
      106.   Fred and War Crimes 15:11  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      107.   100 to 1 body counts=civilian slaughter 15:19  |  John 15/07/09
      108.   Bring this soldier to justice 15:22  |  Gene 15/07/09
      109.   TZFONIT 15:25  |  GABE1 15/07/09
      110.   Well Charles, the big deal is... 15:31  |  John of Jordan 15/07/09
      111.   The IDF and Barak Cannot Be Trusted 15:31  |  Yaakov Sullivan 15/07/09
      112.   Ehud Barak can show us some action? 15:31  |  Dutch Dirk 15/07/09
      113.   Well Arie.... 15:34  |  John of Jordan 15/07/09
      114.   Don`t get stuck on the human shields issue 15:38  |  sh 15/07/09
      115.   Israeli Jew Dr Siderer`s testimony, part I 15:44  |  sh 15/07/09
      116.   Rest of Dr Mirela Siderer`s testimony 15:48  |  sh 15/07/09
      117.   Joe Sittizen on the atrocities 15:48  |  Yaakov Sullivan 15/07/09
      118.   John, who`s looking for glory or honor? 15:50  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      119.   #71 Tzfonit 15:50  |  Fred 15/07/09
      120.   Every Israeli step towards transparency is turned against Israel 15:50  |  Israeli citizen 15/07/09
      121.   #71 Tzfonit 15:55  |  Fred 15/07/09
      122.   "This article is based on hearsay!!!" 15:56  |  Lexo 15/07/09
      123.   :: Joe Sittizen - Perspective?! 15:57  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      124.   What`s next 16:05  |  Steevo 15/07/09
      125.   :: A challenge to any pro-Israeli... 16:06  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      126.   sh, that would seem to indicate they are guilty 16:07  |  Yaakov Sullivan 15/07/09
      127.   to tzfonit 16:14  |  david 15/07/09
      128.   SAID HE HEARD,SAID HE HEARD,SAID HE HEARD..... 16:20  |  Ian 15/07/09
      129.   But since human shields seem to be the focus here 16:22  |  sh 15/07/09
      130.   Fred, read my post carefully. 16:23  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      131.   Rest (of AI`s Human Shields accusation) 16:24  |  sh 15/07/09
      132.   amos harel & haaretz at it again? Trying to dispel sham story... 16:29  |  bat yam 15/07/09
      133.   #72 john and the failings of war and civillian deaths 16:29  |  v hardman 15/07/09
      134.   :: Tzfonit - `no military purpose` 16:34  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      135.   Some truth in his comments 16:39  |  Mark Lincoln 15/07/09
      136.   I see... 16:48  |  Pablo Luis 15/07/09
      137.   addressing criticism to Ehud Barak 16:55  |  christoph 15/07/09
      138.   So it is acceptable 17:15  |  Chris Linthwaite 15/07/09
      139.   IDF 17:19  |  P. vd Spuyt 15/07/09
      140.   #10 - Paul Almond 17:22  |  Daniel 15/07/09
      141.   Ehud Barak have it your way 17:26  |  Ivor Biggun 15/07/09
      142.   "The day we behave like terrorists .." 17:36  |  un2here 15/07/09
      143.   Absolute Cheney! 17:43  |  W 15/07/09
      144.   John 81 17:45  |  Jasper 15/07/09
      145.   Hamas leader surrounds himself with his grandchilden 17:45  |  Paul 15/07/09
      146.   115 "See you in court?" UK court practicing Sharia? 17:46  |  curious 15/07/09
      147.   #10 Paul it is amazing Haaretz Published you. 17:46  |  Big Sur 15/07/09
      148.   #53 Lahbras and what is disgusting...... 17:51  |  Big Sur 15/07/09
      149.   to 92, I do condemn Hamas 17:52  |  John 15/07/09
      150.   Wondering when Ha`Aretz will step up to the plate? 18:01  |  Jacob Blues 15/07/09
      151.   Flaunt the Geneva Convention at your peril 18:03  |  r cummings 15/07/09
      152.   Hamas uses Gilad Shalit for a shield 18:04  |  Ibn Musa 15/07/09
      153.   Matrty Groves said thousands were killed (civilians) 18:09  |  Big Sur 15/07/09
      154.   Matty Groves feints and feints again. 18:13  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      155.   Barak and the Gaza war 18:16  |  Harold 15/07/09
      156.   #83 Tzfonit 18:28  |  BDS 15/07/09
      157.   IDF/ use of Human Shields??? 18:52  |  Joe 15/07/09
      158.   Matty Groves 18:58  |  Petr 15/07/09
      159.   #127 Joe - Yes, say it isn`t so 19:04  |  Ibn Musa 15/07/09
      160.   Tzfonit you are right 19:10  |  Lola 15/07/09
      161.   Why are we not reading about palestinians 19:17  |  Lola 15/07/09
      162.   Dutch News 19:18  |  Fred 15/07/09
      163.   Little Jens from DK, Danish soldiers in Afghanistan got green lig 19:19  |  Absolute Sweden 15/07/09
      164.   Soldiers` stories 19:19  |  Ryan Zito 15/07/09
      165.   :: Big Sur - What is your point? 19:20  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      166.   :: Tzfonit - Hamas don`t use Israelis has human shields 19:32  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      167.   This is not the first time 19:33  |  Janice 15/07/09
      168.   no army in the world 19:38  |  Lola 15/07/09
      169.   Hamas=IDF??? 19:40  |  Nesdon 15/07/09
      170.   The point 19:48  |  Joe 15/07/09
      171.   david, all wars and the atrocities that go with them 19:49  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      172.   :: Petr - What has this got to do with anything? 20:09  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      173.   criticism of IDF 20:19  |  Yvonne 15/07/09
      174.   Matty Groves, get out a map and you`ll be less ignorant. 20:20  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      175.   criticism 20:26  |  infidel 15/07/09
      176.   #121 david, Austin TX; I`ll have an explanation for the often 20:31  |  Canadian Observer 15/07/09
      177.   Using Palestinians as Human Shield 20:51  |  Jay 15/07/09
      178.   Through the looking glass, why most of the talkback is meaningles 20:59  |  Jacob Blues 15/07/09
      179.   To #8 Mary 20:59  |  David Salinger 15/07/09
      180.   No Matty G. HAMAS and Hizballah don`t use Israeli civilians 21:02  |  Jacob Blues 15/07/09
      181.   Or Yaacov that the UN is unworthy of its role 21:07  |  Jacob Blues 15/07/09
      182.   WHY HAS ISRAEL NOT BOMBED GAZA??????????????? 21:20  |  James a Gentile 15/07/09
      183.   Lola on the IDF and other armies 21:21  |  Yaakov Sullivan 15/07/09
      184.   thanks to the command of the idf 21:28  |  stranger 15/07/09
      185.   IDF war tactics 21:47  |  Harold 15/07/09
      186.   Shalom Tzfonit This Matty Guy is never going to get it.. 21:48  |  Big Sur 15/07/09
      187.   defending the indefensible 21:54  |  mariapalestina 15/07/09
      188.   Media black out 21:55  |  American 15/07/09
      189.   Tzfonit #84 21:56  |  mariapalestina 15/07/09
      190.   Jacob Blues 22:19  |  Janice 15/07/09
      191.   Matty Groves...if Hamas won`t bother Israel,Israel 22:21  |  Maria 15/07/09
      192.   Barak: Criticism of IDF should be directed at me 22:23  |  jules 15/07/09
      193.   dispropotionate to mary 22:27  |  alberto 15/07/09
      194.   Mary 22:32  |  Connie 15/07/09
      195.   Mariapalestina, is Hamas unarmed? 22:33  |  Tzfonit 15/07/09
      196.   :: Tzfonit - Israeli occupation 23:16  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      197.   :: Tzfonit - Ask yourself Why? 23:16  |  Matty Groves 15/07/09
      198.   Just watching evening news at the local 3rd try. 23:34  |  Labhras 15/07/09
      199.   Matty Groves I chalange you where are you from 23:41  |  Aby 15/07/09
      200.   Jacob Blues. "UN rummaging around." 00:01  |  Maureen Ann 16/07/09
      201.   Gaza Mistake 00:17  |  Kate Raphael 16/07/09
      202.   Always amazing to read posts .... 00:37  |  Jasper 16/07/09
      203.   To the point Nathalie 00:55  |  arik 16/07/09
      204.   Haaretz wins Gold Medal re public self-flaggelation+self criticsm 01:01  |  Sam 16/07/09
      205.   To the point Nathalie 01:04  |  arik 16/07/09
      206.   Natalie Durson-#90-The solution 01:25  |  Daniel Leopold 16/07/09
      207.   He was on Irish Radio today 01:31  |  Padraic 16/07/09
      208.   Some Democracy: shame on you Israel 01:35  |  Lee Kaplan 16/07/09
      209.   That`s the whole point, Daniel, it`s why Haaretz does it! 01:41  |  Freethinker 16/07/09
      210.   This is war. Get over it. 01:46  |  Mark 16/07/09
      211.   Self-investigation 02:14  |  john Spear 16/07/09
      212.   My erotic dream 02:34  |  Fortuna Benmayor 16/07/09
      213.   Dead right Nik @44 Thank you for telling the truth. 02:37  |  Whiskey/Bravo 16/07/09
      214.   For Boby@ 42 We should have FLATTENED GAZA FLAT! 02:42  |  Whiskey/bravo 16/07/09
      215.   mariapalestina 03:06  |  LOLATU 16/07/09
      216.   #166 Matty Groves - Hamas does use Israeli 03:12  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      217.   50 letters to isr. Embassy - no answer 03:27  |  ruiz 16/07/09
      218.   we have seen this song and dance before 03:31  |  jj 16/07/09
      219.   To all the "hollier than thou" s 03:32  |  Poco Loco 16/07/09
      220.   Barak: send the complaints to me 03:51  |  Johnboy 16/07/09
      221.   mariapalestina nobody defends whatsoever 04:15  |  Marcel 16/07/09
      222.   Barak: Criticism of IDF should be directed at me 04:18  |  Lola Flores 16/07/09
      223.   lola from oz 04:49  |  wibism 16/07/09
      224.   Get Real People 06:03  |  Mark Lincoln 16/07/09
      225.   re Cynical 06:19  |  shlomog 16/07/09
      226.   RE hirz 06:25  |  shlomog 16/07/09
      227.   EVERYTHING which Israel did in Gaza is a "war-crime". 07:29  |  PADDY 16/07/09
      228.   Wibism 07:30  |  Lola 16/07/09
      229.   Patterned After Fallujah I 07:59  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/07/09
      230.   mariapalestina aren`t you supposed to be starving? 08:01  |  Marcel 16/07/09
      231.   the soldier, even giving anonymous testimony, STILL has to worry 08:08  |  eric 16/07/09
      232.   ruiz, did you write to the Palestinians 08:33  |  Lola 16/07/09
      233.   Mark Leb speaking for the world?Hamas boasts using their 09:01  |  Peter sm 16/07/09
      234.   Thanks for Bravory in telling Truth IDF soldiers. 09:12  |  Alaska 16/07/09
      235.   Paul - The Palestinian in his home??? 12:09  |  CJ 16/07/09
      236.   Ibn Musa Er Cast Lead ring any bells? 12:13  |  CJ 16/07/09
      237.   Ibn Musa - Translation by PMW or Memri? 12:15  |  CJ 16/07/09
      238.   Tzfonit - Look at a map of Israel`s actual Sovereign territories 12:26  |  CJ 16/07/09
      239.   CJ that`s what you get when you choose violence as a tool of 14:35  |  Meo 16/07/09
      240.   101 No Aby , it will be the Israelis who will pay ... 16:13  |  Dutch 16/07/09
      241.   #237 CJ- Sydney TRY PAYING ATTENTION 17:48  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      242.   #208 Lee Kaplan (Yeah I`ll bet) 17:52  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      243.   CJ Sydney So you want more examples 18:10  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      244.   Mark Leb - FYI 18:15  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      245.   #237-2 CJ - Australia 18:31  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      246.   231 Eric - The soldier wasn`t there 18:36  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      247.   To jj @?? RIGHT ON THE BUTTON! 18:52  |  Whiskey/Bravo 16/07/09
      248.   #236 CJ- Sydney - Cause & Effect 19:01  |  Ibn Musa 16/07/09
      249.   To Poco Loco @219 Right on the button.What is more,No Loco You! 21:41  |  Whiskey/Bravo 18/07/09
      250.   criticism of IDF 07:30  |  Ilan Samson 22/07/09
      251.   criticism of IDF 07:42  |  Ilan Samson 22/07/09
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