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Spanish FM Miguel Angel Moratinos meeting with the UN's Mideast coordinator, Alvaro de Soto, in Madrid on Tuesday. (AP)
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Spanish FM: Peace plan withheld for fear of Israeli rejection
By Akiva Eldar and Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondents, and The Associated Press

Spanish Foreign Minsiter Miguel Angel Moratinos said Friday that the new Mideast peace initiative drafted by Spain, France and Italy was not coordinated with Israel for fear that Jerusalem would reject it.

In a telephone interview with Haaretz, Moratinos said the plan does not recommend the immediate deployment of a large international force similar to the UNIFIL contingent stationed in Lebanon. Instead, a limited force of inspectors would be deployed to help establish and enforce the cease-fire between Israel and Palestinian militants.

He said that he sought to reassure Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni that there was nothing in the plan "that Israel can reject."
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Livni said Thursday that Israel rejected the new peace initiative out of hand. She told Moratinos that it was unacceptable for an initiative concerning Israel to be launched without coordination with Jerusalem.

Livni also told Moratinos that if the sponsors of the initiative were so inclined, they should seek to hold dialogue with Israel on any new plan.

But Moratinos told Haaretz on Friday he had spoken to his Israeli counterpart about the initiative, in what he described was a "good conversation," and had "tried to convince her that it's not an anti-Israeli plan."

He said that, "at the end of the conversation it was fine," and promised to provide Livni with "all the details."

Introducing the plan Thursday during a meeting with French President Jacques Chirac, Spanish Prime Minister Spanish Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero said it had five components, including an immediate cease-fire that would be monitored by an international presence in Gaza.

Moratinos said that he had been anticipating a poor reception, but remained confident that the plan would be taken seriously.

"We assume our responsibilities," he said. "I knew that in the beginning there will be a negative reaction but I have full confidence that the initiative will go through."

The Spanish foreign minister acknowledged that there was still work to be done on the proposal, but said that the three countries had been driven by a desire to change the stalemate in the region.

"It is not a final initiative, we will have to adapt. But we have a sense of urgency that something has to be done, and this stagnation and frustration which are affecting the lives of Israelis and Palestinians are [getting] worse."

He also said that his own country has an interest in events in the Middle East, not least because they have a direct impact on Spain and its citizens.

"We have police and civil guard [in Lebanon], two Spanish citizens were kidnapped in Gaza, because there is a big disaster," he said. "It's affecting my economy and security in terms of the whole situation. I have interests that are affecting my country, and so, what do I have to do, just wait and see?"

According to Moratinos, European Union and American officials at the highest levels have been made aware of the initiative.

"We discussed with [EU foreign policy chief Javier] Solana and I discussed it this morning with the Americans, but the Americans have the Quartet," Moratinos said, referring to the foursome of the U.S., United Nations, Russia and the EU, who play a joint role in efforts to end the conflict.

"But we already discussed the general idea with [U.S. Secretary of State] Condoleezza Rice a long time ago. And so we want the Americans to lead the initiative, but we have to forward some ideas. If they have better ideas, I am ready to accept them."

Hamas: Israel doesn't want peace

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said Friday that Israel's rejection of the initiative was "proof that Israel doesn't want any form of stability or quiet in the region."

Haniyeh also said the initiative contained "good points" that should be studied further.

MK Tzachi Hanegbi (Likud), the chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, said Friday that, "the initiative presented by Spain is uncalled for, and if it's accepted, it would prevent Israel from operating against terrorist infrastructure in Gaza."

"The Spanish initiative would indeed stop Qassams from being fired, but under the false calm Hamas will continue to expand and stockpile rockets, weapons and explosives," Hanegbi added.

"As far as we know, even the European Union is not interested in the idea," said a senior Israeli official, casting doubt on whether the plan would draw interest.

Palestinian Authority spokesman Nabil Rudeineh said Thursday that his government welcomed the initiative, particularly its emphasis on international intervention.

Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat, who is close to Abbas, said any international peace initiative was welcome, but he stopped short of a warm endorsement of the new one.

"We don't need to reinvent the wheel, we don't need a new initiative. What we need is a mechanism for implementation and timelines," he said.

Also Thursday, Livni encouraged commencing a political process with moderate elements within the Palestinian Authority. She said Israel must continue fighting the war on terror, but simultaneously send out a message for negotiations to those in the territories that do not support terror.

"Our interests are not in war, but in a process that can bring forth a peaceful life," she said.

Zapatero: Cannot remain impassive

Speaking at the Thursday news conference in which he announced the new initiative, Zapatero told reporters that the Middle East conflict had a global impact and the international community could not remain idle as violence raged between Israel and the Palestinians.

"Peace between Israel and the Palestinians means to a large extent peace on the international scene," he said. Middle East peace, Zapatero said, "is one of the factors that can contribute most to cornering fanaticism and terrorism."

The peace plan will be presented to an EU summit next month, Zapatero said, adding he hopes to win the backing of Britain and Germany as well.

"We cannot remain impassive in the face of the horror that continues to unfold before our eyes," Zapatero said.

"When I arrived, Zapatero said to me 'we have the same vision of problems and concerns over the Middle East and particularly Palestine. We should take a common initiative'," Chirac told businessmen and professors.

"Our three countries have the sensitivity, the same interests and the same morals and maybe we can play a part in working out a solution to the Palestinian problem and putting it into action," he said.

After a meeting on Franco-Spanish relations, Chirac said Zapatero had put the Middle East on the agenda of the bilateral talks in the Catalan town of Girona, near the French border.

Speaking in Rome on Thursday, Italy's Prime Minister Romano Prodi said details of the initiative would be announced in the coming days.

"I think the European countries present in the area, have an obligation to look for a way to get out of this situation and prepare - to prepare - a peace process," Prodi told reporters.

There are hopes in Europe for a greater voice in world affairs, particularly after midterm U.S. elections in which voters punished President George W. Bush and gave control of Congress to the Democrats.

Many people in Europe hope the results will usher in a more humble U.S. foreign policy, in which Washington seeks the advice and input of its European allies, rather than dictating policy to them.

Zapatero cited the IDF shelling that killed 19 people last week in a Gaza town and the killing Wednesday of an Israeli woman in a Palestinian rocket attack in Sderot.

The violence, he said, "has reached a level of deterioration that requires determined, urgent action by the international community."

Eventually, a major international conference on Middle East peace should be held, he added, but did not specify if such a meeting should take place in Spain. Spain hosted a landmark peace conference in 1991 that laid the groundwork for the Oslo accords, which in turn led to the creation of the Palestinian Authority.

Europe's efforts to help broker a peace deal have hit some speed bumps
recently, and the continent could face problems this time as well. Many in Israel view European leaders as pro-Palestinian and are wary of their motives.

Last month, Moratinos said that the road map plan for peace between Israel and the Palestinians was fatally stalled and that Europe should take the initiative to come up with a new plan.

Israeli and Palestinian officials were quick to reject his comments as overly pessimistic. Both sides insisted that the road map was not dead, just in serious need of a mechanism for implementation.

The U.S.-backed road map, devised in 2003, called for the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state alongside Israel, but it never got off the ground because neither side lived up to even their initial commitments under the blueprint.
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  1.   The uselessness of the UN and the EU! 15:32  |  George Goldman 16/11/06
  2.   Here`s an idea 15:35  |  Stephen Murray 16/11/06
  3.   And what`s in it for Spain to deal with our lives? Why wouldn`t 15:44  |  Nadav 16/11/06
  4.   yeah right! 15:47  |  Archangel 16/11/06
  5.   Spain should immediately leave Ceuta and Melina to Morocco,not 15:51  |  Absolute Sweden 16/11/06
  6.   CULTURE?S FIGHT AND DEFENSE. 15:52  |  H.H.M 16/11/06
  7.   No thanks Madrid 15:54  |  Yitzhak 16/11/06
  8.   Spain sponsoring peace 16:03  |  Shmuelshachor 16/11/06
  9.   You cannot bash your neighbor into getting along with you 16:07  |  dave 16/11/06
  10.   simply amazing 16:12  |  whoopsie 16/11/06
  11.   Nadav and what about stopping the setlement activities?by Israel 16:13  |  Ben 16/11/06
  12.   Islamiic land 16:25  |  Vladimir 16/11/06
  13.   Palestinian problem 16:26  |  Israel Zwick 16/11/06
  14.   more USELESS gest-ures 16:44  |  j. 16/11/06
  15.   Ben, with all due respect, Israel has recognized the Palestinian 16:56  |  Nadav 16/11/06
  16.   What`s not to like? 16:57  |  Michael 16/11/06
  17.   formation of a national unity government by the Palestinians that 17:03  |  Ben 16/11/06
  18.   WELCOME PEACEFUL PEOPLE! 17:05  |  Mario Fiorito 16/11/06
  19.   an international mission in Gaza to monitor a cease-fire 17:07  |  Ben 16/11/06
  20.   ZP is a moron 17:09  |  Carlos 16/11/06
  21.   talks between Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Abba 17:13  |  Ben 16/11/06
  22.   To hell with EU 17:14  |  Raymond 16/11/06
  23.   What has the EU done that has been fair??? 17:15  |  r 16/11/06
  24.   Bullshit from the EU 17:16  |  Mary 16/11/06
  25.   will not monitor cease-fire 17:16  |  Paul Freedman 16/11/06
  26.   #16 Michael 17:19  |  Yitzhak 16/11/06
  27.   each day no rocket is fired.. 17:28  |  ross 16/11/06
  28.   Doomed to fail 17:34  |  Paulo 16/11/06
  29.   Peace and Borat 17:38  |  Richard 16/11/06
  30.   The Occupation is as big a problem as non-recognition of Israel 17:42  |  Stephen Murray 16/11/06
  31.   Spain, Italy, France Hostile to Israel 17:46  |  Semsem 16/11/06
  32.   #24: Mary: "No one in the USA gives a rats ass about what the EU 17:47  |  Stephen Murray 16/11/06
  33.   Havin EU to look for Israel interest is like wolfes guarding shee 17:48  |  Jorge 16/11/06
  34.   The moment of truth: Each Israeli who rejects this proposal..... 17:52  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  35.   The US Can Withdraw, Israel Can`t 17:53  |  GenerX 16/11/06
  36.   So, Mr. Paulo, you like Iran`s solution better, that is to wipe 17:55  |  Nadav 16/11/06
  37.   20. Carlos: zETAp is the devil 17:56  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  38.   EUROPEAN ARROGANCE 17:57  |  Brant 16/11/06
  39.   3. Nadav: And what`s in it for Spain to deal with our lives? 17:59  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  40.   Yitzhak, you seem to know nothing about Europe 18:00  |  Michael 16/11/06
  41.   4. Absolute Sweden 18:04  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  42.   PEACE INITIATIVE IS NON-STARTER 18:05  |  Mitch 16/11/06
  43.   To #3 Nadav 18:17  |  Stephen 16/11/06
  44.   20. zETAp is a moron 18:21  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  45.   Paul Freedman 18:23  |  Stephen 16/11/06
  46.   Just to be fair and balanced: Each Palestinian who rejects...... 18:24  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  47.   Israel DID live up to its intial commitments under Road Map 18:24  |  Israeli realist 16/11/06
  48.   9. dave 18:25  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  49.   swiss dino "each israeli who does not accept this 18:26  |  thucydides 16/11/06
  50.   George Goldman 18:28  |  Stephen 16/11/06
  51.   #40 Michael 18:32  |  Yitzhak 16/11/06
  52.   Israeli realist 18:39  |  Stephen 16/11/06
  53.   47. Israel and the Road Map 18:39  |  flimflam 16/11/06
  54.   40Michael 18:41  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  55.   No to external interference 18:42  |  Brod 16/11/06
  56.   good luck 18:45  |  Harry 16/11/06
  57.   Yitzhak 18:45  |  Stephen 16/11/06
  58.   to n. 1 - Guess why UN and EU are harmless 18:50  |  Ralph is back 16/11/06
  59.   No coexistance with Israel unless willing refugees return. 18:52  |  Realistic American 16/11/06
  60.   No coexistance with Israel unless willing refugees return. 18:52  |  Realistic American 16/11/06
  61.   # 49 thucydides 18:54  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  62.   swiss dino fuggeddaboutit 18:55  |  sam battaglia 16/11/06
  63.   Yitzhak, thanks for proving you know nothing about Europe 19:01  |  Michael 16/11/06
  64.   Just common sense all around, please!! 19:05  |  Bernard 16/11/06
  65.   KUTW, Yitzhak can take the criticism 19:05  |  Michael 16/11/06
  66.   #57 Stephen 19:06  |  Yitzhak 16/11/06
  67.   EU can`t do a worse job of ME peace than Israel and US 19:08  |  Michael 16/11/06
  68.   # 47 Israeli realist Sorry, but wrong !! 19:10  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  69.   Europe is back 19:10  |  Pierre 16/11/06
  70.   HAARETZ WHY DO I NEED TO SEND MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS? 19:12  |  Bimmer 16/11/06
  71.   20. Carlos 19:13  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  72.   to Brod #55 19:17  |  Alberto 16/11/06
  73.   63. Michael 19:18  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  74.   #59: Are you sure? 19:23  |  j. 16/11/06
  75.   Yitzhak 19:39  |  Stephen 16/11/06
  76.   Carlos 19:41  |  ana 16/11/06
  77.   Another peace plan? 19:42  |  D 16/11/06
  78.   Bimmer 19:44  |  Stephen 16/11/06
  79.   Brant #38 19:45  |  Guess who 16/11/06
  80.   #63 Michael 19:45  |  Yitzhak 16/11/06
  81.   Brod #55 19:50  |  Guess who 16/11/06
  82.   hey realistic american 19:50  |  vik 16/11/06
  83.   65. Michael 19:51  |  KUTW 16/11/06
  84.   #34--enemy of peace? 19:54  |  Paul Freedman 16/11/06
  85.   The Northern Dimension 19:55  |  Alicia 16/11/06
  86.   Yitzhak #7 19:56  |  Guess who 16/11/06
  87.   TO ISRAEL ZWICK 19:57  |  Nicole 16/11/06
  88.   #9: sure you can 19:59  |  Paul Freedman 16/11/06
  89.   ZP with his Kefiah and big smile will solve the MidEast problem. 19:59  |  Yaron 16/11/06
  90.   Pierre #69 20:02  |  Guess who 16/11/06
  91.   Europe vs Arab peace plan, arab includes palestinian refugee rtrn 20:02  |  Daniel 16/11/06
  92.   #59: not American occupiers 20:03  |  Paul Freedman 16/11/06
  93.   #86 Guess Who 20:09  |  Yitzhak 16/11/06
  94.   "the world and swiss dino" 20:10  |  thucydides 16/11/06
  95.   # 5 Absolute Sweden , Right on 20:13  |  Joseph E . 16/11/06
  96.   Sounds nice, but realistically what will it do... 20:19  |  ODP 16/11/06
  97.   Old Hat Chirac is at it again 20:19  |  Jim 16/11/06
  98.   # 84 Paul Freedman 20:19  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  99.   Welcome to the European initiative 20:20  |  Tosefta 16/11/06
  100.   will the europeans shoot down IAF jets or hamas rockets 20:20  |  zionist forever 16/11/06
  101.   Very simple proposal from swede on this board 20:21  |  micha 16/11/06
  102.   THANK GOD FOR ITALIA, SPAIN & france 20:21  |  DOMINIC 16/11/06
  103.   GUESS WHO: My Response 20:21  |  Brant 16/11/06
  104.   IFS are the new Quislings of the world...a limp eye view of what 20:21  |  r 16/11/06
  105.   Wow Yitzhak, you`re from the UK? 20:24  |  Michael 16/11/06
  106.   to #78 Stephen 20:30  |  Bimmer 16/11/06
  107.   The IRA used to blow us up too KUTW 20:31  |  Michael 16/11/06
  108.   Intenational Intervention Needed In Gaza and WB 20:35  |  Morris W. Freedman 16/11/06
  109.   EU simpletons, and chickens and eggs 20:35  |  Polybios 16/11/06
  110.   What is "peace plan"? 20:38  |  Gene 16/11/06
  111.   #105 Michael 20:43  |  Yitzhak 16/11/06
  112.   EU BS Blah blah Won`t Help , Fools , Fooling Fools 20:43  |  Joseph E . 16/11/06
  113.   Nato/UN Force and or IDF to Disarm or demilitarise Gaza 20:45  |  Jeremy 16/11/06
  114.   D # 77 The New Peace Plan part I 20:47  |  Jeff Northridge 16/11/06
  115.   to #107 Consider this demand 20:51  |  Bimmer 16/11/06
  116.   # 107 To Michael UK 20:53  |  Jon 16/11/06
  117.   EU`s Solana Says Hamas Does Not Want to Destroy Israel 20:53  |  Tod Zuckerman 16/11/06
  118.   benny Hill ibn Tosefta 20:58  |  Gabe1 16/11/06
  119.   Crushing the locals, says I, Yitzhak. 21:03  |  Michael 16/11/06
  120.   MY 5 Point Plan 21:06  |  Tom 16/11/06
  121.   By all means ... 21:10  |  Gee 16/11/06
  122.   Jeff Northridge #114 21:15  |  TonyL 16/11/06
  123.   D # 77 The New Peace Plan part II 21:15  |  Jeff Northridge 16/11/06
  124.   It`s a welcome innitiative 21:16  |  peter 16/11/06
  125.   Be Ezrat Ha Shem 21:16  |  Aaron 16/11/06
  126.   Embargo , an other pals penny theory , evyrone is smuggling 21:16  |  Joseph E . 16/11/06
  127.   Bravo Europe-It`s About Time You Do Something 21:19  |  Jane 16/11/06
  128.   Semsem nr 31 21:20  |  Mario Fiorito 16/11/06
  129.   EU draft for peace plan 21:20  |  raymond deane 16/11/06
  130.   I welcome this initiative for peace 21:21  |  ALG Simon 16/11/06
  131.   turn up the volume 21:24  |  tadchase 16/11/06
  132.   THE TREATY OF TOM 21:26  |  Brant 16/11/06
  133.   # 20 21:33  |  Jim 16/11/06
  134.   # 123 Jeff Northridge American pessimism (or realism?) 21:35  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  135.   Tell me Vladimir where is it said Spain is Islamic land 21:36  |  Lebanese in Canada 16/11/06
  136.   No. 34 21:39  |  jp 16/11/06
  137.   The 3 states forgot the West Bank 21:41  |  Lebanese in Canada 16/11/06
  138.   No 34 21:43  |  jp 16/11/06
  139.   Jane #127 21:45  |  TonyL 16/11/06
  140.   to # 132 Brant - Hilton Head - SC 21:45  |  Tom 16/11/06
  141.   No 46 21:47  |  jp 16/11/06
  142.   Israel rejected that mean Gaza still occupied by Israel 21:47  |  Tamir Gaza 16/11/06
  143.   no more land for peace. peace for peace 21:47  |  pete 16/11/06
  144.   Gene # 110 Good Point 21:47  |  Jeff Northridge 16/11/06
  145.   Israel rejects peace 21:49  |  flimflam 16/11/06
  146.   The Usual Kneejerk Reaction 21:49  |  chet 16/11/06
  147.   No 68 21:52  |  jp 16/11/06
  148.   When? 21:53  |  Luis 16/11/06
  149.   To Brant from SC 21:54  |  Lebanese in Canada 16/11/06
  150.   Intnl Force in Gaza 22:00  |  Philippe 16/11/06
  151.   No 98 22:01  |  jp 16/11/06
  152.   Spain & the Basques 22:01  |  Inyaki 16/11/06
  153.   EU-UN 22:03  |  Joyce 16/11/06
  154.   No. 134 22:05  |  jp 16/11/06
  155.   Spain & France are Muslim appeasers. Italian FM D`Alema is LEFTI 22:05  |  Vittorio 16/11/06
  156.   realistic american my A.. 22:05  |  Philippe 16/11/06
  157.   To Stepen Murray Re US Largest Trading Partner is NOT EU 22:05  |  D.V. 16/11/06
  158.   3 ex-colonial powers have learned something 22:07  |  Tony Price 16/11/06
  159.   # 46 jp 22:10  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  160.   The Islamic republic of France, and the two socialist governments 22:13  |  SystemF 16/11/06
  161.   not total dolts and idiots 22:13  |  Paul Freedman 16/11/06
  162.   Israel rejects peace initiative 22:15  |  Roi is back 16/11/06
  163.   International Peace Plan Initiative , New Mideast Policy 22:17  |  Joseph E . 16/11/06
  164.   peace conference? 22:17  |  juan solana 16/11/06
  165.   #98: bingo, smuggling 22:18  |  Paul Freedman 16/11/06
  166.   Why seek peace? We have all the land we want! 22:20  |  Toronto`s Finest 16/11/06
  167.   TO LEBANESE IN CANADA: MY REPLY 22:20  |  Brant 16/11/06
  168.   #142--nobody would doubt intervention 22:22  |  Paul Freedman 16/11/06
  169.   Israelis hate peace 22:26  |  Abraham 16/11/06
  170.   Don`t be ridiculous, Jon 117 22:27  |  Michael 16/11/06
  171.   Nobody can talk reason to Israelis 22:27  |  Abraham 16/11/06
  172.   yes because UNIFIL is doing such a great job in Lebanon 22:28  |  Danny - Israeli one 16/11/06
  173.   BRANT #38 22:29  |  PAT 16/11/06
  174.   nternational sanctions and commercial embargo on Israel 22:33  |  Zitouni 16/11/06
  175.   To Brod "No to external interference" 22:33  |  Lebanese in Canada 16/11/06
  176.   Swiss, Dino 22:34  |  Juan Solana 16/11/06
  177.   Lebanese in Canada #137 22:34  |  Guess who 16/11/06
  178.   No Israeli goods into the EU 22:37  |  Amused 16/11/06
  179.   Swiss (Dino) # 134 Pessimism 22:38  |  Jeff Northridge 16/11/06
  180.   When is Israel going to realise 22:40  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/11/06
  181.   the international community cannot remain idle 22:42  |  Joseph E . 16/11/06
  182.   means zippo 22:43  |  vik 16/11/06
  183.   Israeli rejection and possible European pressure 22:45  |  Tosefta 16/11/06
  184.   #135. Lebanese in Canada 22:45  |  Polybios 16/11/06
  185.   how is it possible for so few to insult so many in one stroke 22:46  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 16/11/06
  186.   Usual stupid reaction from Livni 22:47  |  Michael 16/11/06
  187.   #9 - Dave Bashing (or is it Daoud?)- 22:51  |  * BEN JABO 16/11/06
  188.   Gene #110 What is `peace plan` 22:52  |  TonyL 16/11/06
  189.   European politicians are ... 22:54  |  ziggurat 16/11/06
  190.   #64 What they proposed now 22:55  |  Jim 16/11/06
  191.   A EU house in Sderot 22:59  |  * BEN JABO 16/11/06
  192.   more impudence BY OUSIDERS IN ASOVEREIGN STATES AFFAIRS 23:04  |  paul harris 16/11/06
  193.   We`re so good at rejecting peace moves 23:06  |  Bruno 16/11/06
  194.   Why?Why? Why? 23:06  |  Neshan 16/11/06
  195.   Semsem, Italy is not hostile 23:08  |  Jake 16/11/06
  196.   Nice Try - Won`t Work - Keep Plugging 23:09  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/11/06
  197.   nobody can impose peace on us 23:10  |  nathan 16/11/06
  198.   Lebanese in Canada # 135 Islamic Spain 23:10  |  Jeff Northridge 16/11/06
  199.   European initiative 23:11  |  ussishkin 16/11/06
  200.   3129 DEANE IS MEAN AND KNOWS NOWT ABOUT SOVEREIGNTY 23:11  |  paul harris 16/11/06
  201.   If Israel has withdrawn from Gaza 23:13  |  Chris Linthwaite 16/11/06
  202.   Abraham #150 & 152 23:13  |  Gee 16/11/06
  203.   Correction, Semsem, Italy wasn`t even present at the meeting! 23:14  |  Jake 16/11/06
  204.   Danny-Israeli one #153 23:15  |  TonyL 16/11/06
  205.   A GIBRALTAR PERSPECTIVE 23:15  |  SAM EL LLANITO 16/11/06
  206.   a new middle east peace initiative?? 23:21  |  saul a. readner 16/11/06
  207.   Jeff Northridge - Good Analysis 23:22  |  Mark of Lewiston 16/11/06
  208.   REFUGEES 23:23  |  * BEN JABO 16/11/06
  209.   tom 23:24  |  bev 16/11/06
  210.   chet 23:28  |  bev 16/11/06
  211.   Brokeback Chirac 23:29  |  NJ 16/11/06
  212.   abraham 23:31  |  bev 16/11/06
  213.   This is a fourth fold of multi fold strategy to surround Holy Lan 23:32  |  Odd Ball 16/11/06
  214.   Back to Normal 23:32  |  Brian Freund 16/11/06
  215.   to Pete #143 Good Idea. HAARTEZ ,SECOND ATTEMPT 23:32  |  Biimmer 16/11/06
  216.   A SLAP ON THE FACES OF PRO-ISRAEL EUROPENS HYPOCRATS 23:36  |  THE JACKAL 16/11/06
  217.   # 141 jp 23:36  |  Swiss (Dino) 16/11/06
  218.   Key to Peace 23:41  |  ATLAS 16/11/06
  219.   Abraham # 152 Don`t Bet On It 23:41  |  Jeff Northridge 16/11/06
  220.   The ropes are tightining 23:42  |  John 16/11/06
  221.   EREKAT SURPRISED AT ISRAELI REJECTION 23:42  |  Brant 16/11/06
  222.   # 69 Pierre From Paris 23:43  |  Jim 16/11/06
  223.   typical EU 23:44  |  Michael 16/11/06
  224.   Chirs, Gaza is not a sovereign state 23:46  |  Jake 16/11/06
  225.   Israeli rejection and possible European pressure 23:48  |  Tosefta 16/11/06
  226.   Israel does not want peace 23:52  |  McLoughlin 16/11/06
  227.   Keep hiding your war crimes (State Terrorism) 23:53  |  Tally 16/11/06
  228.   Chris Linthwaite # 160 00:00  |  TonyL 17/11/06
  229.   # 71 KUTW 00:00  |  Jim 17/11/06
  230.   re: Danny #153 00:02  |  Paulo 17/11/06
  231.   Israel Threatened 00:06  |  Paulo 17/11/06
  232.   European Draft 00:06  |  Hal Smith 17/11/06
  233.   FANATICISM AND INTOLERANCE 00:07  |  Malleck Amode 17/11/06
  234.   France-Italy-Spain 00:12  |  Linda 17/11/06
  235.   European Draft 00:14  |  Hal Smith 17/11/06
  236.   89.Yaron 00:17  |  KUTW 17/11/06
  237.   The most anti-Semitic country in Europe proposes a plan 00:18  |  Ignacio 17/11/06
  238.   God bless Zappatero-he got the troops out of Iraq-Afganistan and 00:20  |  Padre del Zappato 17/11/06
  239.   European Draft 00:24  |  Yenta Fagal 17/11/06
  240.   Mark of Lewiston #156 00:26  |  Guess who 17/11/06
  241.   Memories 00:26  |  ATLAS 17/11/06
  242.   ARE they going to guarantee a total ceasfire from the Pals or are 00:27  |  PETER SM 17/11/06
  243.   107Michael 00:28  |  KUTW 17/11/06
  244.   EU,Pals with Arabs states want to show to Israel how to live 00:29  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  245.   # 75 Stephen 00:33  |  Jim 17/11/06
  246.   The new 21st EU century colonialism 00:33  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  247.   #161 Gee was doing quite well until near the end 00:33  |  Johnboy 17/11/06
  248.   The Title predict the end of the report 00:37  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  249.   israel rejects European draft of course 00:41  |  ronda 17/11/06
  250.   a note to all... please. 00:41  |  Gabriel 17/11/06
  251.   EU,an other clown who looks for fame to justify its existence 00:42  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  252.   A piece of advice from Spain. 00:43  |  Roberto Gutierrez 17/11/06
  253.   76.ana 00:48  |  KUTW 17/11/06
  254.   paul harris #159 00:50  |  Guess who 17/11/06
  255.   # 85 Alicia 00:50  |  Jim 17/11/06
  256.   for Tamir to ponder about GAZA 00:51  |  nathan 17/11/06
  257.   raymond deane #129 00:56  |  Guess who 17/11/06
  258.   # 86 Guess What, Guess Who 01:01  |  Jim 17/11/06
  259.   Israel rejects peace and embraces war 01:03  |  David King 17/11/06
  260.   In Other Words..... 01:03  |  Sonja 17/11/06
  261.   proposal 01:03  |  cizi 17/11/06
  262.   # 94 Thucydides 01:09  |  Jim 17/11/06
  263.   you don`t talk to terror , yoy fight back terror 01:17  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  264.   Rejetion 01:21  |  Marty 17/11/06
  265.   Thanks but no thanks 01:23  |  Danite 17/11/06
  266.   Sorry, not interested 01:24  |  Baz Mann 17/11/06
  267.   Jane 01:26  |  Danite 17/11/06
  268.   Nichael 01:32  |  schafe82 17/11/06
  269.   Rresponse to Stephen#32 01:34  |  Larry 17/11/06
  270.   International Intervention 01:35  |  Rebecca 17/11/06
  271.   Right of return / prisoners 01:37  |  schafe82 17/11/06
  272.   PEACE IS A DIRTY WORD 01:37  |  NEUTERED OBSERVER 17/11/06
  273.   Realistic American #60. Israelis not from Brooklyn 01:39  |  Laila 17/11/06
  274.   Joseph E #164 01:42  |  TonyL 17/11/06
  275.   If Israel has withdrawn from Gaza 01:47  |  schafe82 17/11/06
  276.   # 101 Micha 01:47  |  Jim 17/11/06
  277.   Tamir Gaza # 142 Ignorance Run Amuck! 01:55  |  Jeff Northridge 17/11/06
  278.   mark of Lewsiton#156 01:57  |  Danite 17/11/06
  279.   The WORLD rejects Israel`s rejection of peace 01:58  |  Joe 17/11/06
  280.   Spain`s peace initiative 02:07  |  Jay 17/11/06
  281.   International Intervention = Policing Israel 02:12  |  Jon 17/11/06
  282.   A step in the right direction 02:12  |  Colin Wright 17/11/06
  283.   Roberto Gutierrez # 165 Interesting 02:18  |  Jeff Northridge 17/11/06
  284.   Murray #30 02:34  |  John 17/11/06
  285.   #167 - Marty (Mohammed?) 02:34  |  * BEN JABO 17/11/06
  286.   # 112 ZJoseph E. 02:37  |  Jim 17/11/06
  287.   #160 Israeli withdrawal from Gaza 02:42  |  * BEN JABO 17/11/06
  288.   160. UN will stop Qassams as well as it stopped Hezbolla rockets. 02:43  |  logician 17/11/06
  289.   Mr. Paulo, you and Iran will never, ever 02:45  |  Lover of Israel 17/11/06
  290.   # 1123 Jeremy 02:51  |  Jim 17/11/06
  291.   #113 - UN to Disarm Gaza, Yeah sure! 02:56  |  * BEN JABO 17/11/06
  292.   169 Danite - Still Learning 03:08  |  Mark of Lewiston 17/11/06
  293.   # 119 For Michael 03:10  |  Jim 17/11/06
  294.   Yet more proof 03:10  |  Mustard 17/11/06
  295.   #170-Joe Ramallah sunglasses at night 03:10  |  peter 17/11/06
  296.   RAMALLAH JOE Where does Israel reject peace.?HAMAS does 03:19  |  PETER. S.M 17/11/06
  297.   Israel rejects European draft for Middle East peace initiative 03:22  |  Al 17/11/06
  298.   # 123 Jeff 03:25  |  Jim 17/11/06
  299.   RESTORE QUIET TO GAZA/ISRAEL FRONT 03:37  |  * BEN JABO 17/11/06
  300.   Joseph E #164 03:47  |  TonyL 17/11/06
  301.   Mary`s pique 03:57  |  hollingsworth 17/11/06
  302.   Chris Linthwaite #160 04:03  |  TonyL 17/11/06
  303.   To Jeff Northridge from California 04:13  |  Lebanese in Canada 17/11/06
  304.   re: Peter S.M. #203 04:22  |  Paulo 17/11/06
  305.   Israeli Palestinian conflict 04:23  |  Stranger 17/11/06
  306.   #15 Nadav 04:23  |  Rebekah S 17/11/06
  307.   #47 Israeli fantacist 04:27  |  Rebekah S 17/11/06
  308.   re: Love Of Israel #197 04:28  |  Paulo 17/11/06
  309.   # 128 Mario Fiorito 04:29  |  Jim 17/11/06
  310.   You can not trust them 04:42  |  Daniel 17/11/06
  311.   # 134 Swiss Dino 04:46  |  Jim 17/11/06
  312.   re: Israeli Realist #47 04:48  |  Paulo 17/11/06
  313.   # 182 ,& # 207 TonyL \ With / # 194 Jim 04:49  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  314.   ISREAL WHY DID YOU REJECT A POISIONS SPOON FED PEACE? 05:23  |  MIKE 17/11/06
  315.   E.U. foreign policy 05:25  |  Frederik 17/11/06
  316.   # 156 Mark of Lewiston 05:25  |  Jim 17/11/06
  317.   EU think they can stop Iran with peace-Iran is taking the Muslim 05:30  |  Christian 17/11/06
  318.   David King`s smallness 05:32  |  Jake 17/11/06
  319.   "Realistic American" is like the Holy Roman Empire 05:41  |  Jake 17/11/06
  320.   Rebekah, including "natural growth of settlements"? 05:47  |  Jake 17/11/06
  321.   Stating the Obvious 05:49  |  Alan 17/11/06
  322.   Rebekah, Weisglass is correct 05:51  |  Jake 17/11/06
  323.   Laila #199, that`s not the Palestinian`s problem 05:53  |  Irish Sensation 17/11/06
  324.   Paulo, a great philosopher once wrote 05:54  |  Jake 17/11/06
  325.   # 182 ,& # 207 TonyL \ With / # 194 Jim 06:10  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  326.   # 251 MIKE 06:29  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  327.   #260, Jake 06:30  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 17/11/06
  328.   European intervention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 06:33  |  Judy Cohen 17/11/06
  329.   We are toady, be a toady too 06:47  |  Ilan 17/11/06
  330.   Spain anit semitic? 06:50  |  anat 17/11/06
  331.   #328 Judy sees hypocracy 07:09  |  Johnboy 17/11/06
  332.   DOES ISRAEL REALLY WANT PEACE? 07:15  |  Maureen Ann 17/11/06
  333.   The EU TRIO etude in F Major 07:32  |  jed nightingale 17/11/06
  334.   let spain first give back its land to the arabs, after 1000 yrs 07:34  |  ralph 17/11/06
  335.   Notice Jacques Chirac French President Statement 07:36  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  336.   Cipora Julianna Kohn 07:37  |  Swiss (Dino) 17/11/06
  337.   to Judy Cohen 07:41  |  Andrej 17/11/06
  338.   BACK TO YOUR OWN BORDER OF PRE-1967 WAR. 07:41  |  indrajaya 17/11/06
  339.   Lebanese in Canada on Muslim claim to Spain 07:50  |  Watcher 17/11/06
  340.   Send peace troops to Gaza 08:04  |  Bernie 17/11/06
  341.   Israelis must thank EU on Peace Initiative 08:08  |  Simon 17/11/06
  342.   Response to jake 08:18  |  David King 17/11/06
  343.   To israeli jake 08:22  |  David King 17/11/06
  344.   All the world anti semitic 08:24  |  David King 17/11/06
  345.   CeaseFire? Anybody think of telling Hamas to quit shelling? 09:27  |  Scooby 17/11/06
  346.   An unappetising prospect for the people of Israel 09:38  |  Clickfool 17/11/06
  347.   Swiss (Dino) 09:50  |  michael3k 17/11/06
  348.   Sonja #260 10:01  |  Guess who 17/11/06
  349.   Stephen 10:19  |  michael3k 17/11/06
  350.   zappatero,prodi and chirac are fools 10:20  |  daniel yefet 17/11/06
  351.   Jim #222 10:23  |  Guess who 17/11/06
  352.   ATLAS #218 10:28  |  Guess who 17/11/06
  353.   OF COURSE EU IS ANTI-SEMITIC!!!!!!!! 10:47  |  Lebanese 17/11/06
  354.   Cipora #185 10:54  |  Guess who 17/11/06
  355.   an australians point of view 11:36  |  viper 17/11/06
  356.   When Darfur? Somalia? 11:41  |  DJStahl 17/11/06
  357.   Who Are The Pals official,The Unruly Dozens Pals Terror Factions 11:54  |  Joseph E . 17/11/06
  358.   The only way to restore peace 11:55  |  Kay M.D. 17/11/06
  359.   ZIONIST EXPANSIONISTS NOT INTERESTED IN PEACE 11:59  |  Frederic 17/11/06
  360.   finally they`re coming nearer 12:01  |  christoph 17/11/06
  361.   ISRAEL WANTS PEACE WHILE HOLDING ON TO STOLEN LAND! 12:01  |  couscous 17/11/06
  362.   Non Starter 12:05  |  Marc Hamil 17/11/06
  363.   Guess who, the question in this case is the relationship between 12:06  |  Nadav 17/11/06
  364.   All those who use the "anti-semitism" libel 12:28  |  Jonathan 17/11/06
  365.   The world is quickly running out of patience. 12:47  |  Joel A. Levitt 17/11/06
  366.   Full support to #353 of Ruined Lebanon and I add 13:08  |  Simon 17/11/06
  367.   No Israeli partner for peace. 13:23  |  Mark 17/11/06
  368.   no peace, please! 13:25  |  Henon 17/11/06
  369.   Of course Israel rejects this peace initiative 13:36  |  Stephen Murray 17/11/06
  370.   World record in rejecting peace plans 13:49  |  Bruno 17/11/06
  371.   360: couscous, you mean ALL of Israel is stolen land, right? 13:50  |  Michigan 17/11/06
  372.   365Joel Levitt: What has "The World" done for Darfur genocide? 14:16  |  Michigan 17/11/06
  373.   355viper "The Arabs stopped firing" For how many hours? 14:27  |  Logician 17/11/06
  374.   Its a real win for us, now the EU citizens will support us more 14:34  |  Tamir Gaza 17/11/06
  375.   # 338 Ceasefire lines from 1949... 14:35  |  Josef 17/11/06
  376.   #365 Joel A. Levitt The World has patience for Darfur Genocide! 14:41  |  Logician 17/11/06
  377.   the uselessness of the un. 14:52  |  Danny. 17/11/06
  378.   374: No, Tamir, they`ve always supported you 14:56  |  David Teich 17/11/06
  379.   #368 - Belgium Peace 15:20  |  SG 17/11/06
  380.   #375 15:24  |  Avi Yerushalmi 17/11/06
  381.   garbage.proves nothing. why haven`t they stopped rockets 15:31  |  ralph 17/11/06
  382.   garbage.proves nothing. why haven`t they stopped rockets 15:31  |  ralph 17/11/06
  383.   #374 - Tamir 15:35  |  * BEN JABO 17/11/06
  384.   re: KUTW #39 15:39  |  Paulo 17/11/06
  385.   #365 Levitt & Patience 15:39  |  * BEN JABO 17/11/06
  386.   re: Ignacio #237 15:44  |  Paulo 17/11/06
  387.   # 14 15:52  |  Outsider 17/11/06
  388.   # 24 Mary 15:58  |  Outsider 17/11/06
  389.   If Darfur`s about to get sorted, Israel will need a new excuse 16:05  |  Michael 17/11/06
  390.   Michael and his pathetic comparisons 16:10  |  British academic 17/11/06
  391.   ISRAEL IS HYPOCRITCAL 16:13  |  Boyd 17/11/06
  392.   state terror/Tally 16:17  |  art 17/11/06
  393.   Palestinian supporters can you put numbers on the 16:28  |  British academic 17/11/06
  394.   The Jewish Problem 16:29  |  Robin 17/11/06
  395.   Europeans were in charge of protecting Jewish minority 16:38  |  Ilya 17/11/06
  396.   Keep Israel out of the equation 16:38  |  Realistic Assessment 17/11/06
  397.   That Proves Israeli Real Skin 16:39  |  Ricky Iskandar 17/11/06
  398.   Boyd with the Brain Void 16:44  |  Alain 17/11/06
  399.   To Michigan 372, Logician 376 and Ben Jabo 384: 16:44  |  Joel A. Levitt 17/11/06
  400.   Haniyeh: "We fire qassams proving we are interested in peace" 16:46  |  Jon 17/11/06
  401.   New Peace Plan from Spain, France and Italy 16:46  |  Ricardo Kolbe 17/11/06
  402.   British Academic 390 do some studying for once 16:53  |  Michael