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On the way to a pariah state
By Carlo Strenger

Henry Kissinger used to say that Israel has no foreign policy, only internal politics. Listening to our politicians, you often indeed wonder whether any of them has any long-term strategy. Given that every Israeli politician is supposed to care for Israel's long-term survival, it is stunning to see that an important event in the U.S. with enormous implications for Israel has gone all but unnoticed here.

Eighteen months ago, two senior political scientists, Stephen M. Walt and John J. Mearsheimer, from Harvard and the University of Chicago, respectively, published a paper claiming that U.S. Middle Eastern policy, including the misguided Iraq war and its unqualified support for Israel over the last decades, has run counter to true U.S. interests. They blame the influence of the Israel Lobby for this.

The paper generated a lot of commotion in Jewish circles in the U.S., but surprisingly, has been disregarded in Israel. W&M have now published The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy as a book. Their conclusion: the U.S. needs to start relating to Israel like any other country, and no longer see a special ally in us, because the close relation with Israel harms U.S. interests.

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W&M paint Israel as a rogue state that does not abide by international law, and is not up to the standards expected of a Western state. The subtext is clear: Israel is just another problematic Middle Eastern country, and should be treated as such - and the number of policy makers and opinion leaders who think this way is growing.

My concern here is not with the question whether W&M are right in the details of their analysis of the power of the Israel Lobby. My point is that their anti-Israeli stance is the tip of a growing iceberg that is simply disregarded by Israel's decision makers. Dismissing W&M as a fringe phenomenon is shortsighted, because it does not take into account a consistent development over the last few years.

It is something of a consensus that the confrontation with Political Islam has become the Western world's No. 1 geopolitical problem. This is generally called the "Clash of Civilizations," following Samuel Huntington and Bernard Lewis. A growing number of decision makers in Europe and the U.S. think that Israel, while not necessarily the main cause for the rise of Political Islam, has become a symbol around which Islamist extremism coalesces - and there is good evidence for this. Watch any Jihadist Web site, even if run from Pakistan, and you will find that images from the West Bank are the core of their iconography.

Israel's way of dealing with the Palestinians and Lebanon in the last few decades has led to a long-term process in which the Western world is beginning to see Israel as a pariah state that has no true affinity to Western values. Hence, it is not on the 'right' side of the clash of civilizations, as was reflected in the French ambassador to Britain calling Israel "that shitty little country" not long ago.

This development is consistently disregarded by Israeli decision makers. Short-term political bickering is on their minds more than the survival of Israel, which in theory is their main goal. Any criticism of Israel's policies is dismissed as an expression of the New Anti-Semitism. The proof often provided is that we are not judged by the same standard as our neighbors: "Jordan, Syria, Iraq and Saudi Arabia can get away with inhuman behavior a lot worse than ours," the argument runs.

My point is simple: the day we are no longer judged by the standards of the West is the beginning of Israel's end, because it means that the West has decided we are no longer part of it, and hence will not be committed to Israel's existence. The day may come when Israel will, as W&M suggest, be seen as just another troublesome country that destabilizes the world.

Behaving in a manner befitting the standards of the Western world is far more important for Israel's long-term survival than gaining a few square miles here and there, by building the security wall through Palestinian territories, tearing apart villages, homes and schools, and expanding settlements. Every such act is not just a moral outrage; it pushes Israel one step closer to being disqualified from belonging to the West.

My argument is not just about being loved by the world - though this factor must not be dismissed. Many of us believe that Israel's moral fiber has been fatally harmed by the occupation and by the two Lebanon wars. The result is that both morally and strategically, the continued occupation and subjugation of the Palestinian people has put us on the wrong side of history.

The writer is professor of Psychology at Tel Aviv University, and a member of the Permanent Monitoring Panel on Terrorism of the World Federation of Scientists.
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  1.   Stenger , Who is on the "Right" Side of History? 08:58  |  Ben Israel 25/09/07
  2.   long-term strategy is to win 09:36  |  joe 25/09/07
  3.   the writer is a left wing idiot without balance 10:49  |  victor hardman 25/09/07
  4.   A thoughtful article 10:57  |  Natallie Durson 25/09/07
  5.   Spoiled Brat 11:04  |  Walid 25/09/07
  6.   like Israelis even care 11:10  |  ted 25/09/07
  7.   pariah 11:15  |  Ralph 25/09/07
  8.   Israel is a pariah state... 11:19  |  Richard 25/09/07
  9.   Israel, an immature state. 11:19  |  Jens 25/09/07
  10.   professor carlo strenger 11:24  |  harzion 25/09/07
  11.   why would any israeli think european states 11:26  |  harzion 25/09/07
  12.   professor carlo strenger europe has bloody teeth 11:29  |  harzion 25/09/07
  13.   Another good article. Is it time to pay attention? 11:31  |  dana 25/09/07
  14.   professor strenger do you not feel a little queasy 11:31  |  harzion 25/09/07
  15.   Sad day whatever...... 11:37  |  Esther 25/09/07
  16.   Israel is already a pariah state 11:47  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  17.   #7 jens can tell us which state anywhere matured in 60 years 11:55  |  victor hardman 25/09/07
  18.   Oh come off it 12:01  |  Shalom Freedman 25/09/07
  19.   Ouch! I have to agree with Natallie #2? 12:12  |  S 25/09/07
  20.   never let the enemy define you 12:15  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/09/07
  21.   # 1.... To Victor...Truth is painful 12:17  |  Farooq 25/09/07
  22.   "Western Standards" 12:19  |  osvaldo 25/09/07
  23.   Israel is constantly told "she is a light unto nations" 12:20  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/09/07
  24.   the conflict must be solved 12:27  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/09/07
  25.   Pariah state 12:31  |  Sean 25/09/07
  26.   Haaretz is becoming un-readably left 12:33  |  dyinglikeflies 25/09/07
  27.   Jens- Ah, and what of parenting the cousins? 12:33  |  Tzvi 25/09/07
  28.   harzion, all posts, you are correct, as always 12:35  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/09/07
  29.   Carlo the Liar,.No western country tolerates as much as Israel 12:37  |  Absolute Sweden 25/09/07
  30.   Time for Israel to be treated like everyone else 12:37  |  Slibovitz 25/09/07
  31.   to #3 to #3 Spoiled Brat 12:37  |  NB 25/09/07
  32.   So what have the Darfur victims done to deserve their fate? 12:38  |  Tzvi 25/09/07
  33.   #3 Walid 12:44  |  Sarah 25/09/07
  34.   Carlo confused 12:45  |  peter 25/09/07
  35.   carlo is right 12:54  |  ravi 25/09/07
  36.   Israel is no longer a Western state 12:56  |  Keith T 25/09/07
  37.   Clever vision ... 12:56  |  Leandro 25/09/07
  38.   A clear test 12:58  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  39.   The point 13:10  |  Paul Easton 25/09/07
  40.   Spoiled brat? 13:10  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  41.   Israel is an international pariah already 13:14  |  gearoid 25/09/07
  42.   Natallie Durson 13:19  |  AM 25/09/07
  43.   responses which don`t hit the point 13:22  |  Michael 25/09/07
  44.   Brilliant analysis, of first magnitude importance! 13:25  |  Ivar 25/09/07
  45.   Pariah state 13:25  |  Choni Davidowitz 25/09/07
  46.   A fine analysis - moral confusion 13:26  |  thru-other-eyes 25/09/07
  47.   Good article - is it time to pay attention yet? 2nd try 13:31  |  dana 25/09/07
  48.   the problem is that Israel is surrounded by hordes 13:36  |  Trembling Palestine 25/09/07
  49.   israel has been hanging on to the coat tails of the Americans,and 13:36  |  lakshmi 25/09/07
  50.   without OIL 13:37  |  real vision 25/09/07
  51.   the minute the US stops supporting Israel, the 13:39  |  Trembling Palestine 25/09/07
  52.   Not only wrong side of history 13:41  |  Jan Elshout 25/09/07
  53.   Whine, whine whine, whine, whine, whine, etc. 13:41  |  Judith, Haifa 25/09/07
  54.   pariah state Israel ? 13:45  |  maurice grima 25/09/07
  55.   clever vision # 22 13:49  |  real vision 25/09/07
  56.   NB 13:53  |  Walid 25/09/07
  57.   Hardman, Absolute Sweden & Co. 13:54  |  Gad Giladi 25/09/07
  58.   are Christian Journalists captured and forced to convert to Islam 13:54  |  Susanna/Shoshanna 25/09/07
  59.   Carlo "the Jackal" will rot in hell for his words 13:59  |  Rabbi Izzy Lahm 25/09/07
  60.   Predictable reactions 13:59  |  Murray 25/09/07
  61.   Sarah 14:00  |  Walid 25/09/07
  62.   pariah 14:04  |  iletzter 25/09/07
  63.   THE HARM HAS BEEN DONE... and Israel is leading towards disaster 14:14  |  TrippleJump 25/09/07
  64.   THE WRITER IS A LEFT-WING LUNATIC 14:15  |  NEUTRAL 25/09/07
  65.   anti-Semitism is a cornerstone of the Western civilization 14:20  |  no name 25/09/07
  66.   Free `The Israel Lobby..`chapters in NYTimes 14:26  |  vhobie 25/09/07
  67.   Israel is indeed a shitty country 14:29  |  KMS 25/09/07
  68.   confused 14:31  |  Shimon 25/09/07
  69.   #32 Real Vision 14:38  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  70.   Polling Data 14:39  |  Daybreak 25/09/07
  71.   Carlo and the "pariah state" 14:40  |  Hastaroth 25/09/07
  72.   Spoiled brat? Sibling jealousy? 14:44  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  73.   #38 WELL SAID, GAD GILADI 14:44  |  Don Camillo 25/09/07
  74.   #43 Rabbi Izzy Lahm 14:52  |  Chris Linthwaite 25/09/07
  75.   #42 gad giladi and personal attacks on the brainless 14:56  |  victor hardman 25/09/07
  76.   #59 Correction 14:59  |  Daybreak 25/09/07
  77.   Chris Linthwaite 15:03  |  Walid 25/09/07
  78.   Carlo makes a point 15:05  |  peter 25/09/07
  79.   Maurice Grima and imperial racism 15:09  |  Truths 25/09/07
  80.   Israel might have crossed border already.. 15:11  |  Adil 25/09/07
  81.   Occupation and its discontents 15:14  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  82.   Ouch! Do I have to agree with Natallie #2? (second try) 15:14  |  S 25/09/07
  83.   I beg to differ with this author (and others) 15:18  |  William 25/09/07
  84.   Natallie # 2 15:19  |  Abby 25/09/07
  85.   simply apartheid, slightly better than south africa 15:28  |  mehmet 25/09/07
  86.   Yes Adil 15:28  |  Israeli 25/09/07
  87.   harzion. back to the subject... 15:31  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  88.   Israel HAS ALREADY ARRIVED At Being A Pariah State. 15:35  |  Proud Pal Defender 25/09/07
  89.   #80 Tosefta 15:37  |  Jasmine Murphy 25/09/07
  90.   @ Durson 15:45  |  Ralph 25/09/07
  91.   the tedious and discontented tveira man 15:49  |  discontented 25/09/07
  92.   So Mr. Strenger 15:54  |  Barry 25/09/07
  93.   A PERFECT COUPLE ON THE SAME PATH 15:57  |  indrajaya 25/09/07
  94.   S #19 - what`s happening? 15:57  |  dana 25/09/07
  95.   How to read polls (Daybreak #70) 16:00  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  96.   choni #45 16:06  |  michael 25/09/07
  97.   Margie in Tel Aviv#72 16:09  |  S 25/09/07
  98.   #89, Jasmine Murphy to Tosefta 16:10  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  99.   Just the opposite 16:26  |  Joshua 25/09/07
  100.   S 16:27  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  101.   Margie #40 16:29  |  Guido 25/09/07
  102.   Strong point, although stronger authors needed. 16:31  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  103.   Nothing new 16:31  |  Gene 25/09/07
  104.   Zmogus 16:32  |  Jasmine Murphy 25/09/07
  105.   Gad Giladi,a Great Enlightener with a Brain like a Neon Bulb 16:33  |  Absolute Sweden 25/09/07
  106.   #97 S lost at sea 16:38  |  peter 25/09/07
  107.   Tosefta #95 16:40  |  Daybreak 25/09/07
  108.   #61 Walid 16:41  |  Sarah 25/09/07
  109.   Very Good and Relevant Article!! 16:42  |  Collond 25/09/07
  110.   Guido 16:54  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  111.   Guido 16:54  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  112.   Pariah , Exile, Outsider, Recluse ? it?s called OCCUPATION 16:56  |  Fed Up 25/09/07
  113.   Western standards..... 16:58  |  Miriam Seshadri 25/09/07
  114.   Read the questions too (Daybreak #107) 17:08  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  115.   Carlo Strenger = Casey Stengel on a bad day 17:08  |  Chick 25/09/07
  116.   BETTER ALIVE AND UNPOPULAR, THAN DEAD AND POPULAR ! 17:09  |  G. Marcus 25/09/07
  117.   zmogus what a bore 17:12  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  118.   zmogus "subjective wholesale categorisations" 17:15  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  119.   Israel must preserve a close relationship with Washington 17:21  |  Jason (aspen) 25/09/07
  120.   #104, Jasmine Murphy on geographical mapping of reason. 17:22  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  121.   Good article...should make all of us think 17:26  |  thinker 25/09/07
  122.   Zmogus 17:28  |  Jasmine Murphy 25/09/07
  123.   Is it Israel`s fault it is the target? 17:39  |  Denton 25/09/07
  124.   To sarkozy, with compassion 17:39  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  125.   zmogus "mapping your standards along geographical borders" 17:41  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  126.   Mehmet - In Turkey they sue and torture 17:44  |  David Israel 25/09/07
  127.   sarkozy. The help in reading is imminent. 17:49  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  128.   zmogus "certain israeli practices in intermediate area" 17:54  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  129.   Fighting with a windmill (Jasmine Murphy; Zmogus) 17:59  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  130.   zmogus "under the heap of solemn representatives" 18:01  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  131.   More Leftist idiocies 18:01  |  Frank 25/09/07
  132.   #114 Tosefta 18:02  |  Daybreak 25/09/07
  133.   Sarkozy 18:03  |  Jasmine Murphy 25/09/07
  134.   zmogus "as for the definition of morality" 18:07  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  135.   Israel must take to heart Ricky Nelson`s 1972 hit "Garden Party" 18:09  |  Dr. L. Brnd 25/09/07
  136.   #122, Jasmine Murphy. 18:12  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  137.   Jewish Academics and Jewish Pathology 18:13  |  Tod Zuckerman 25/09/07
  138.   I give up on you (Daydream #130) 18:18  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  139.   #128, sarkozy. Few more hours... be strong 18:30  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  140.   To Walid 18:32  |  Schmidt 25/09/07
  141.   re 26 is right 18:40  |  Devin 25/09/07
  142.   #138 Tosefta 18:42  |  Daybreak 25/09/07
  143.   #134,sarkozy On "definitions of morality" address the one who... 18:48  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  144.   Amen to that..... 19:02  |  Clickfool 25/09/07
  145.   What an idiot 19:04  |  Avi 25/09/07
  146.   #130, sarkozy. Lesson N°3: Ctrl+C, then Ctrl+V 19:05  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  147.   On the way to being Western!! 19:09  |  a wandering Jew 25/09/07
  148.   Sarkozy/Flushman is of the lesser "ron" variety, I 19:18  |  Tosefta 25/09/07
  149.   If Israel is indeed on the way 19:25  |  Yonatan 25/09/07
  150.   #98 #146 Zmogus 19:27  |  Jasmine Murphy 25/09/07
  151.   Tod Z. - Hamas allowing attacks on Gazan Christians 19:31  |  Polybios 25/09/07
  152.   dana #94 19:33  |  S 25/09/07
  153.   For a "professor of Psychology" maybe it makes sence.... 19:35  |  Misha 25/09/07
  154.   George Says 19:37  |  OldPete 25/09/07
  155.   #150, Jasmine Murphy. Hard to believe but i agree mea-achuz 19:41  |  zmogus 25/09/07
  156.   Sarah 19:42  |  Walid 25/09/07
  157.   Greetings to you Old Pete 19:49  |  Jasmine Murphy 25/09/07
  158.   Calm down, Carlos, we are all in the same boat.... 19:54  |  Misha 25/09/07
  159.   More undignified whining and self-hating defeatism 19:55  |  Jake 25/09/07
  160.   Old News 20:00  |  Buzaglow 25/09/07
  161.   Sarah 20:01  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  162.   Why are lies like `Any criticism of Israel`s policies is` on here 20:01  |  John Ryan 25/09/07
  163.   Farooq, truth? 20:01  |  Jake 25/09/07
  164.   Keith T, what a hypocrite! 20:11  |  Jake 25/09/07
  165.   No. 72 Margie 20:11  |  steve 25/09/07
  166.   dear Professor 20:12  |  arte 25/09/07
  167.   Schmidt 20:13  |  Walid 25/09/07
  168.   Another self hating pile of leftist garbage 20:17  |  Alon Fisher 25/09/07
  169.   "no name" , you make no sense. 20:18  |  Jake 25/09/07
  170.   Thanks peter #106 for offering me directions 20:19  |  S 25/09/07
  171.   zmogus after careful thought i would in fact recommend you 20:19  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  172.   awww poor Walid 20:23  |  peter 25/09/07
  173.   Pariah since Moses 20:29  |  Jacques 25/09/07
  174.   @25, sean, what about 25% of yung irish boys 20:35  |  vladimir 25/09/07
  175.   Steve Israel is scientific, not militaristic 20:35  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  176.   zmogus 20:48  |  sarkozy 25/09/07
  177.   #170- S goes sailing without a rudder 20:50  |  peter 25/09/07
  178.   Thank you, Cipora Julianna Kohn. 21:00  |  Fortuna Benmayor 25/09/07
  179.   Strenger should teach at Columbia University 21:13  |  GJW 25/09/07
  180.   Peter 21:16  |  Walid 25/09/07
  181.   It is unfair to judge Israel according to 21:19  |  Nicolas from Paris 25/09/07
  182.   Pariah State 21:29  |  Victor Benaroya 25/09/07
  183.   To Margie in Tel Aviv 21:29  |  Mark B. 25/09/07
  184.   #178, Fortuna Benmayor 21:50  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 25/09/07
  185.   there are no western values 21:51  |  dovdevan 25/09/07
  186.   Hello Mark 21:56  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 25/09/07
  187.   Right on 22:03  |  David 25/09/07
  188.   It seems to me that America *requires* Israel be a Pariah 22:05  |  Victor 25/09/07
  189.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #20 P1 22:05  |  TonyL 25/09/07
  190.   Fact, American support for Israel is growing 22:09  |  David 25/09/07
  191.   Cipora Julianna Kohn #20 P2 22:15  |  TonyL 25/09/07
  192.   # 175 Thanks a lot for the timely update... 22:51  |  Misha 25/09/07
  193.   To Sean from Londonderry 23:28  |  Jake 25/09/07
  194.   C J Kohn 23:35  |  John 25/09/07
  195.   peter #177 The Montreal keeper of "purity of arms" 23:39  |  S 25/09/07
  196.   Choni 23:41  |  John 25/09/07
  197.   Dear Choni (45), how do you know that you... 23:57  |  Karl 25/09/07
  198.   180 - re: Walid to Peter 00:08  |  Maurice 26/09/07
  199.   Natallie Durson # 4 the answers that you already know 00:12  |  American in NY 26/09/07
  200.   #181 - Nicolas from Paris 00:12  |  Maurice 26/09/07
  201.   The problem with this artical 00:12  |  Ron 26/09/07
  202.   daybreak #142 re: Tosefta #138 00:18  |  American in NY 26/09/07
  203.   Who cares? 00:23  |  Unconcerned Jew 26/09/07
  204.   re #3 `The writer is a left-wing idiot without balance.` 00:23  |  Colin Wright 26/09/07
  205.   re Natalie Durson #4 `A thoughtful article` 00:30  |  Colin Wright 26/09/07
  206.   Another Haaretz compain of threatening 00:35  |  Israel supporter 26/09/07
  207.   #162 John Ryan 00:44  |  Slibovitz 26/09/07
  208.   Western standards? 00:50  |  jorge grosz 26/09/07
  209.   definetly with help from haaretz and other leftists jews 00:50  |  ralph 26/09/07
  210.   to Walid 00:53  |  Jacques 26/09/07
  211.   S & Dana # 94 00:54  |  American in NY 26/09/07
  212.   PR Problem vs. Existence 01:26  |  Jane 26/09/07
  213.   Do You Know Who Applauded at Columbia? 01:30  |  Jane 26/09/07
  214.   #187 Colin Wright 01:39  |  Labhras 26/09/07
  215.   #49, Lakshmi... 01:47  |  Silvienne 26/09/07
  216.   Should Israel behave like the west? 01:49  |  Henry 26/09/07
  217.   #187, Colin Wright...re: #3 01:50  |  Silvienne 26/09/07
  218.   Walid 01:50  |  John 26/09/07
  219.   I agree with the author of the piece 01:57  |  Nancy Yates 26/09/07
  220.   Pariah state 02:05  |  Shaul 26/09/07
  221.   Why everybody hate Isreal? 02:19  |  darren 26/09/07
  222.   #5 03:13  |  Moshe 26/09/07
  223.   Israel has had to defend itself from it`s neigbours since day 1 03:42  |  Avrum 26/09/07
  224.   Tosefta more, and less-rons 03:46  |  Mark Lincoln 26/09/07
  225.   #42 03:47  |  Moshe 26/09/07
  226.   Flushron - like duh! 03:50  |  Mark Lincoln 26/09/07
  227.   #38 03:55  |  Moshe 26/09/07
  228.   The yin and yang 03:57  |  Mark Lincoln 26/09/07
  229.   #194 04:02  |  Moshe 26/09/07
  230.   #181 I think you misunderstand the article, Nicholas. 04:02  |  Johnboy 26/09/07
  231.   Nicolas from Paris - yes? 04:04  |  Mark Lincoln 26/09/07
  232.   Israel, the Future, and Islam 04:20  |  Ayal 26/09/07
  233.   Israel is no longer the "shitty little country." 04:55  |  Johnny Weintraub 26/09/07
  234.   John 04:58  |  Walid 26/09/07
  235.   The Western World Is Dying 05:02  |  Efox 26/09/07
  236.   Hey Jens... 05:14  |  Abomb 26/09/07
  237.   Israel IS Israel and be proud of it-regadless of Carlos at al! 05:25  |  JfromC 26/09/07
  238.   ClickFOOL, come on, do you really think that? 05:25  |  Isaac Block 26/09/07
  239.   israel and usa jewry 05:34  |  ROB OF MELBOURNE AUS 26/09/07
  240.   NO EFFORT WASTED TO DELEGITIMIZE ISRAEL 05:46  |  Jorge 26/09/07
  241.   Jane #189 "That is the war that must be won" 05:49  |  spyguy 26/09/07
  242.   Johnny Weintraub 06:06  |  M. 26/09/07
  243.   M&W`s Book Is Just That, Another Attack On Israel in An Attempt 06:09  |  Eli 26/09/07
  244.   Efox 06:11  |  Walid 26/09/07
  245.   Johnny Weintraub 06:26  |  Walid 26/09/07
  246.   #218, spyguy... 06:44  |  Silvienne 26/09/07
  247.   walid 07:08  |  sweis Melbourne 26/09/07
  248.   belonging to west 07:21  |  michel 26/09/07
  249.   Walid - Salamtak, re Israel Has A Few Nobel Laureats Here and 07:23  |  Eli 26/09/07
  250.   It`s not so easy to become a pariah state 07:24  |  B 26/09/07
  251.   Sweis Melbourne 07:37  |  Walid 26/09/07
  252.   Eli 08:02  |  Walid 26/09/07
  253.   no way 08:04  |  mo 26/09/07
  254.   #204 colin to refute an article it has to have content ! 08:14  |  victor hardman 26/09/07
  255.   Shitty is as shitty does # 233 08:21  |  Clickfool 26/09/07
  256.   For Isaac Block on big mouths #238 08:24  |  Clickfool 26/09/07
  257.   #211, ANY 08:27  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 26/09/07
  258.   walid 08:29  |  sweis Melbourne 26/09/07
  259.   American in New York #211 08:46  |  S 26/09/07
  260.   #176, sarkozy. Are you quoting the voices in your head? 08:52  |  zmogus 26/09/07
  261.   Eli 09:01  |  Walid 26/09/07
  262.   Still trying on your lies Walid? 09:34  |  Margie in Tel Aviv 26/09/07
  263.   Please let us be judged by the standards of the West 09:38  |  Zev 26/09/07
  264.   Israel Should Be Jewish, Not Western 09:50  |  David 26/09/07
  265.   Victor Hardman 09:59  |  A.M. 26/09/07
  266.   Stenger,right side of history 10:04  |  Victor Fadayel 26/09/07
  267.   Victor Hardman 10:04  |  A.M. 26/09/07
  268.   darren 10:14  |  sweis Melbourne 26/09/07
  269.   Richard 10:15  |  A.M. 26/09/07
  270.   who should look at who? 10:22  |  Peter Smith 26/09/07
  271.   More articles like Stenger`s are needed 10:32  |  Angela 26/09/07
  272.   S #152 - Barak vs Obama vs A-DJ - the un-sissies? 12:24  |  dana 26/09/07
  273.   Peter Smith 14:01  |  sweis Melbourne 26/09/07
  274.   X Supporter of Israel 14:04  |  JJ 26/09/07
  275.   Clickfool and the Ambassador and Israeli Big Mouths. 14:26  |  Eli 26/09/07
  276.   Walid. The Conflict Is Not About Palestinians 15:06  |  Eli 26/09/07
  277.   CJK #257 How Democracies work 15:54  |  American in NY 26/09/07
  278.   200 - Maurice 19:00  |  Nicolas from Paris 26/09/07
  279.   230 - Johnboy 19:05  |  Nicolas from Paris 26/09/07
  280.   231 - Mark Lincoln 19:17  |  Nicolas from Paris 26/09/07
  281.   231- Mark Lincoln 19:28  |  Nicolas from Paris 26/09/07
  282.   Israel is trying hard not to chase its own ghosts 22:04  |  Ernst 26/09/07
  283.   war as a moral destroyer 22:21  |  Ernst 26/09/07
  284.   #81 Tosefta 22:26  |  Ernst 26/09/07
  285.   Tosefta, one more thing 22:34  |  Ernst 26/09/07
  286.   Ernst #284-5 re Tosefta and what, just what todo 01:08  |  dana 27/09/07
  287.   #277, ANY 01:40  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 27/09/07
  288.   Ernest 01:48  |  sweis Melbourne 27/09/07
  289.   israel, tear down the wall 04:23  |  god talking 27/09/07
  290.   Paraiah State 04:59  |  Dean 27/09/07
  291.   Is this guy serious? 10:49  |  Reuven 27/09/07
  292.   Staying for ever 12:22  |  Toppi 27/09/07
  293.   CJK #287 democracy lesson continued. 15:16  |  American in NY 27/09/07
  294.   282 - Ernst 16:50  |  Nicolas from Paris 27/09/07
  295.   283 - Ernst, wake up ! 17:01  |  Nicolas from Paris 27/09/07
  296.   America in NY #293 re Cipora - another interesting point 23:54  |  dana 27/09/07
  297.   a pariah state 00:46  |  delia 30/09/07
  298.   #293, ANY 10:47  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 30/09/07
  299.   #296, dana 11:00  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 30/09/07
  300.   CJK Who is racist? 20:39  |  American in NY 30/09/07
  301.   Israel is not part of the west 06:06  |  Marilyn 01/10/07
  302.   #300, ANY 06:37  |  Cipora Julianna Kohn 01/10/07
  303.   Israel is better than Saudi Arabia 08:18  |  keith 01/10/07
  304.   On the way to a pariah state 09:54  |  Laurent Idlas 01/10/07
  305.   CJK # 302 I think that you have been caugt in a lie 23:09  |  American in NY 01/10/07
  306.   #299, Cipora J.K. to Dana. Let me remind you your post month ago 10:55  |  zmogus 02/10/07
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